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Back around 2012 my wife and I were out at Slaughter Creek trail for a quick evening ride. Although she doesn't like anyone riding too close behind her, from time to time I like to see how she's riding so that I can give her advice. About half way out she went around a kind of wide left corner and encountered a load of horse crap right in the middle of the trail. She swerved around it but there was a right-hand corner just after and as she tried to turn into it she lost control and ended up landing on her butt. Everything seemed fine. She got up and back on her bike and we started riding again. But about two minutes in she asked me where we were. I thought it a little strange since we had ridden Slaughter Creek trail many times. Then I thought she was asking about where we were on the trail. Long story short, she was not all right, and things started going downhill from there. She had obviously had some sort of concussion in the fall and this was causing her to lose her memory. And understandably it was scaring her... And me. We stopped so I could consider what to do. Should she keep riding to the parking lot? It would be the quickest way to get her to a hospital... And, she was riding perfectly. I wasn't going to leave her alone to go get the car, but also us stopping would mean trying to give instructions to the ambulance folks about where we were on he trail, and unfortunately Slaughter Creek trail didn't have any kind of location markers. I made the decision to have us ride on to the car, but not knowing what was going on medically, it was a scary decision to make. Thankfully we got back to the car without incident — I was totally amazed at how well she handled her riding back given how scared she was — and I got her to St. David's as fast as I could. She was admitted very quickly and was in the emergency room for about three or four hours before being released. They did a CAT scan and found nothing untoward, and by the time she was released she was beginning to get some of her memory back. And after a couple hours at home she had improved considerably. By the next day she was back to normal.

It was very scary. Being out on a trail that is somewhat away from quick help when something like this happens is a scary thing.

When I had time to look back at what happened though I was confused. When she fell she had not hit her head. She fell on her butt in a kind of sitting position. But then as I slowly went through my visual memory I realized that her head had snapped back as she hit the ground (her head didn't hit the ground, it just got snapped back when her butt hit). And when I asked her about this she said that she thought that she remembered that happening to her.

That whiplash is the only thing that I think could have caused her the concussion. Something that happened in a split second and was not really something that stood out in her fall. And there she was... Memory loss within minutes, wondering where she was, where the kids were. It was freaky scary.

It just reminded me how vulnerable we are, and how quickly injuries can happen.

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I'm now at about the 10-month mark post injury / surgery and can confidently say that my recovery is complete. Just a few weeks ago I was still struggling to regain my form on the bike, but it seems like this past weekend with the temporary reprieve from heat and humidity, everything magically came together. On both my Sat and Sun morning rides I was killing all of the climbs on Double Down and nailing features that have challenged me since returning to full-time riding in Feb. I was back in that mode of giving it all throughout my ride and still yearning for more. I'm not noticing any residual effects from the hamstring reattachment or from the subsequent DVT / PE that set me back in Jan. Consistent HIIT and strength training at home over the past 7 months has definitely helped with my rehab and recovery. My HR was reaching 167 (at age 61) as I had struggled on rides during my recovery, and now my HR is peaking at 155 with only 5 minutes over the course of a couple of hours being in peak zone. It's amazing how much difference added leg strength, increased cardio, and lower body weight can make in overall performance. My goal now is to remain injury free - forever!    

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On 5/11/2020 at 9:47 AM, throet said:

I'm now at about the 10-month mark post injury / surgery and can confidently say that my recovery is complete. Just a few weeks ago I was still struggling to regain my form on the bike, but it seems like this past weekend with the temporary reprieve from heat and humidity, everything magically came together. On both my Sat and Sun morning rides I was killing all of the climbs on Double Down and nailing features that have challenged me since returning to full-time riding in Feb. I was back in that mode of giving it all throughout my ride and still yearning for more. I'm not noticing any residual effects from the hamstring reattachment or from the subsequent DVT / PE that set me back in Jan. Consistent HIIT and strength training at home over the past 7 months has definitely helped with my rehab and recovery. My HR was reaching 167 (at age 61) as I had struggled on rides during my recovery, and now my HR is peaking at 155 with only 5 minutes over the course of a couple of hours being in peak zone. It's amazing how much difference added leg strength, increased cardio, and lower body weight can make in overall performance. My goal now is to remain injury free - forever!    

Great to hear! so there IS hope for old dudes 🙂

 

now for that HR story....I'm quite jelly

Here's from my last ride on SN (I think it's when I saw you?)

Z1 Endurance < 101 39s 0.8%
 
Z2 Moderate 101 - 134 - 29:24 35.6%
 
Z3 Tempo 134 - 150  - 41:40 50.5%
 
Z4 Threshold 150 - 166  - 10:51 13.1%
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OK, I'll play.

About a year ago I was riding on the GB and I had a massive pounding around my groin. So bad I could hardly finish. Dr. Google told me that it was 95% probability that I had a hernia. Iced it down and did not have a problem. Basically rode every day, did a hard riding trip to Bentonville and never had another issue. I knew I was going to eventually have to do something about it but I was lazy and kept putting it off because it never came back. Then, at the R&I in February it hit again. Hurt so bad I could barely drive home. Doc said hernia. Surgeon said yep, and scheduled the surgery. I was literally at the hospital for the pre-surgery meeting when I heard about the first confirmed COVID cases in Austin. Decided to press pause and save PPE and resources for those in need (big mistake).

Surgeries reopened and I was scheduled. Literally 3 business days before Abbott decides to halt all elective surgeries (but not close the bars, that happened a day later). I thought I was screwed. 24 hours later the doc calls. Surgery back on. Yesterday I was there at 5AM check in assuming it could all go south again. Totally relaxed, no issue. They wheel me into the OR and my hear goes from about 70 to 150. Holy crap this is....

I think I was awake for less than 60 seconds in that room, the next thing I see is recovery room.

Got some oxycodone to take the edge off and since discharge have been on Tylenol/Advil. Up and walking, walked the dog last night. Just can do anything strenuous or lift anything for a while. The pain is less than post Enchilada Buffet pain, more sore than anything.

While they can't really point to the definitive cause, I have to think that years of steep climbing and singlespeeding do not help my situation.

If any of you think that you might have one, get it checked out. The surgery is all done with robots these days, I think the whole process was under 45 minutes and the recover is a piece of cake (so far). Knowing how much pressure mountain biking puts on your abdomen, don't mess around with this, take care of it because the process is minimal and the recovery is fast. I should be on a bike in 4 weeks and I should be cleared for trails in 8 weeks (but COVID will probably keep me off trails for now.)

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Hurray! Austin Bike will be back soon. Even if he is wrong about the steep climbing and the single speeding. 

Several of my recent "events" have been blamed on the same thing - I am just getting old. While I can't deny that, I don't think someone in decent physical shape just over night "just gets old" and starts having problems that didn't exist the day, week, month before.

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1 hour ago, cxagent said:

- I am just getting old. While I can't deny that, I don't think someone in decent physical shape just over night "just gets old" and starts having problems that didn't exist the day, week, month before.

It might not happen over night but I know there are "aha moments" when you suddenly realize that "thing" is because you are old now.

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Now that this thread has bubbled back up to the top....

Thanks in no small part to much of the talk earlier in this thread about potential for being 'healthy' but still having some sort of heart/circulatory/bloackage issues, I decided to get myself a heart CT calcium scan.  This was back in February and due to a little procrastination and the Covid, even though I had the prescription I neglected to get it scheduled.  However, mid-Covid probably in later April our next door neighbor (who is 50, plays tennis REGULARLY, eats well and his slim) had a mild heart attack.  He goes in to find out he's got 100% blockage in 2 arteries and 75% in the other!!!  Three days later he's having quadruple open heart bypass surgery!  He's all done and everything is going very well for him.  But the Dr said if he wasn't such an active person, his family would have found him face-down in the flower bed due to how bad his blockage was.  (I can explain more of that if needed, pretty interesting stuff)  But that occurrence made me even more concerned about myself.  I have a family history on both sides and have been treated for mild-hypertension for past 2 yrs after putting it off for about 5+.  However, my test results came back perfectly good!  My score was actually a zero, which is the best that could have been.  My entire family breathed a sigh of relief (wife, kids, parents).  

Thank you all who have banged this drum so loud in this thread for getting checked out.  Even though my results were good, who knows???  I'd put myself on fairly equal pairing with my next door neighbor, and his outcome was much more potentially tragic.

Thanks again,
CJB

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28 minutes ago, CBaron said:

our next door neighbor (who is 50, plays tennis REGULARLY, eats well and his slim) had a mild heart attack.  He goes in to find out he's got 100% blockage in 2 arteries and 75% in the other!!!  Three days later he's having quadruple open heart bypass surgery!  He's all done and everything is going very well for him.  But the Dr said if he wasn't such an active person, his family would have found him face-down in the flower bed due to how bad his blockage was.  (I can explain more of that if needed, pretty interesting stuff) 

Where is the "holy crap!" button on this site? I want to click it twice!

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16 minutes ago, The Tip said:

Where is the "holy crap!" button on this site? I want to click it twice!

Oh it was NOT good!   One day (Sunday) he's trying to finish a tennis game, Monday he goes to regularly scheduled DR appoint for blood work.  At the END of the Dr appt, he casually mentions his chest 'pain' fatigue....next thing he's whisked off to the emergency center for test results showing he's had mild heart attack.  Thursday his chest is being split open.

He said at the ER he was awake and could see the scan they were doing to observe blockage.  He was thinking it would be something fairly nominal.  However, it was worst-case scenario, complete bockages.  But the cool thing was that since he was so active and 'healthy' and had been putting a long-term aerobic demand on his system, his body had actually made a bunch of little 'bypasses' around the blocked arteries.  He said on the scan it looks like a bunch of 'half cheerios' routing around the block points in cluster multiples.  Its was THIS occurrence that prevented a total and immediate fatal heart attack.  His body was finding a way...   But the Dr had said that if had been sedentary then these re-routes would not have happened and it would have been a blunt accute heart attack.  Crazy stuff.  I was on the phone with the lap and scheduling my Heart CT scan for the next available appt (which was still many weeks away due to Covid)

GO GET IT DONE PEOPLE!

-CJB 

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Every male over 50 needs to do two things now if you haven't:

1. Get a colonoscopy because every man has colon cancer. The thing is colon cancer works really slow and if our bodies were able to make it to 150 or so, colon cancer would kill all of us. For most, that cancer would get us well after our expiration date, but for some, the numbers do not fall in their favor. Get it done.

2. Get a CT Plaque scan. These are not normally covered by insurance (yeah, don't even get me started on that...) but they cost $100-150. The Heart Hospital in Austin does them all day long. This will tell you if you have blockage. It uses a small amount of radiation, so I don't recommend getting them often, but treat yourself with all of the money you are not spending on restaurants right now. Heart Hospital is a specialty hospital so there are no COVID patients there, little risk in going there for the test.

I am not a doctor, but both of the above items were explained to me in depth by doctors. Also, if you have not had a physical in a while you need to get on a regular yearly schedule. Up until my early 40's I probably had 3-4 physicals in my life. Then I started going every year. I was an idiot for ignoring my health.

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I turned 50 in December, been a to Dr once a couple years ago for the flu. Havent had a checkup since maybe mid 30s.
Ok.. this is on my radar and I have been avoiding despite family history of bad things happening. I prefer happy ignorance to facing reality.
Has anyone been to any of the mens health places for checkups? Not for the Low T stuff but they do checkups and all that. I have no Dr and no clue

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12 minutes ago, Cafeend said:

Has anyone been to any of the mens health places for checkups? Not for the Low T stuff but they do checkups and all that. I have no Dr and no clue

My advice would be to find a primary care doctor through BS&W. They've built a really strong primary care network across town and have excellent access to specialists when needed. Their online tools are fantastic and like others they offer a broad range of telehealth services. I moved my care to BS&W from ARC and have been very pleased with the shift. While ARC has good doctors, their model isn't as focused on collaborative care as it should be. It was also harder to reach the actual doctor through their messaging platform. Nurses intervene and don't always give proper advice whereas with BS&W I'm always talking to the doctor. My BS&W doctor called me directly within days of an ER visit without me even having to notify them. He also called me during the COVID-19 just to see how I was doing.  

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If you're 45 and there's a family history of colon cancer or even a certain type of polyp, you should get a colonoscopy.

 

Also, check your testicles frequently and thoroughly.  Tell your boys too.  My dad, first day at Jester Center after we moved my stuff in and we're meeting all the neighbors gave us this speech.  I was so embarrassed at the time, now I get it.  As parents, it's our job to embarrass our kids.

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39 minutes ago, AntonioGG said:

If you're 45 and there's a family history of colon cancer or even a certain type of polyp, you should get a colonoscopy.

 

Also, check your testicles frequently and thoroughly.  Tell your boys too.  My dad, first day at Jester Center after we moved my stuff in and we're meeting all the neighbors gave us this speech.  I was so embarrassed at the time, now I get it.  As parents, it's our job to embarrass our kids.

“Sir, this is a Wendy’s”

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19 hours ago, AntonioGG said:

In fact, men can get breast cancer too so watch out for pain and lumps on your chest.

Had a lump on my breast and doctor sent me to the Women's Imaging Center. Wife accompanied me to the counter and we were promptly greeted with "how can I help you ma'am". I'm like "hey I'm the patient and I'm here for my "mannogram". It actually was quite an embarrassing experience, but no sense taking chances. The lump turned out to be a lipoma, but the "manno" did also reveal mild gynecomastia. Might be time for a manzere.       

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On 7/3/2020 at 8:58 AM, throet said:

Had a lump on my breast and doctor sent me to the Women's Imaging Center. Wife accompanied me to the counter and we were promptly greeted with "how can I help you ma'am". I'm like "hey I'm the patient and I'm here for my "mannogram". It actually was quite an embarrassing experience, but no sense taking chances. The lump turned out to be a lipoma, but the "manno" did also reveal mild gynecomastia. Might be time for a manzere.       

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On 7/1/2020 at 3:04 PM, cxagent said:

While I can't deny that, I don't think someone in decent physical shape just over night "just gets old" and starts having problems that didn't exist the day, week, month before.

Oh, cxagent. Just wait.  Many surprises lie in store!  However, true that being active staves off many negative aspects of aging. 

 

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