CBaron Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 12:24 PM, TAF said: I know one way to find out! ....I've only held 2 Thumper ride calls in the past 10 days. The weather is turning better and the trail is in good shape from the recent wheels-down, if people still want Thumper ride-calls, then I'd need to see some interest. [I predict....crickets] Later, -CJB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) I’m so slow right now that I’d feel bad holding you up, but I could lead a slower group if need be. (Except this week since my wife is out and I’m watching the kids.) Edited October 20, 2019 by AntonioGG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBaron Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, AntonioGG said: I’m so slow right now that I’d feel bad holding you up, but I could lead a slower group if need be. (Except this week since my wife is out and I’m watching the kids.) I'm leaving town Thursday for Bentonville. So I'm thinking weeks away (and if people express interest). My recent riding out there has really made me appreciate it again. I'd like to capitalize on that. Lets see what comes up. Sorry for the thread-jack...anyone who wants to continue this discussion meet us over here: https://austinmountainbiking.com/index.php?/topic/1477-again-this-thursday-1017-thumper-eb-pre-ride/ -CJB Edited October 20, 2019 by CBaron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita Handle Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The fact that a governmental body holds a metaphorical gun to our head and threatens to pull the trigger and cut off trail access if someone else does something stupid is really irksome. Imagine if they threatened to shut down I-35 if ONE MORE PERSON EXCEEDS THE SPEED LIMIT THROUGH THERE!!! Restore the damage. Find and punish/warn/educate the offenders. That's all that anyone needs to do. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 8:58 AM, fontarin said: Pretty sure no one on here would be doing that. There are many of these "standard excuses" - No one on here would do that. I didn't know that was a problem. It's public property - I can do anything I want. Somebody/everybody else is doing it. It's just one rock/tree/short section. etc etc etc But it keeps happening. And it threatens continued use of the trails. It would help a lot if 'everyone on here' would take an active role in educating anyone doing such things as cutting or sanitizing or whatever you call it. There is no way to 'educate' everybody walking into every bike shop or maybe moving to Austin or even driving thru Austin and stopping for a ride. Things like the original post need to be spread by riders to other riders who apparently don't know better. And thank the OP for the work he is doing. It is a thankless job that takes *SHIT-TONS* of time and effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 8:54 AM, TheX said: I would hope that this would be common sense. I hoped. Apparently that 'common sense' thing is extremely uncommon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 11:00 AM, notyal said: I've always been under the assumption that most cheater lines at CP are cut by the motos. It's a lot harder to carry a dirt bike up a huge ledge than a mountain bike. There are 'cheater lines' cut by motos, MTB and even hikers. Even a lesser skilled moto rider has a better chance of making it up some of the bigger ledges than an equivalent MTB's. I think the rider skill level it the common denominator. But that is just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 11:32 AM, TAF said: Rest assured that no trail-work of any kind takes place in preparation for the EB. Opps. I was ' not properly educated' on that. I went out and cleared face slappers and eye pokers in the limited time I had before the EB. I never got to Emma. Too little time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAF Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, cxagent said: Opps. I was ' not properly educated' on that. I went out and cleared face slappers and eye pokers in the limited time I had before the EB. I never got to Emma. Too little time. I meant major and permanent trail work. Sure, the Green Belt and Thumper were cleared of slappers (the fauna variety), but there's no building goes on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Pretty hard to blame cheater lines on the motos when the GB is full of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 14 hours ago, AustinBike said: Pretty hard to blame cheater lines on the motos when the GB is full of them. My gawd! There's Motos on the Green Belt now? (jk) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, Ridenfool said: My gawd! There's Motos on the Green Belt now? (jk) You're kidding, but only half right? I had the same first take. There are motos on the BCGB btw...of the 4 wheel variety that come with flashing red and blue lights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zrx24 Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) The efforts to establish new cheater lines around existing cheater lines continues at City Park (Emma Long). It is most definitely MTB riders doing this. If anyone knows the person(s) doing this, will you kindly inform / remind them that at Emma Long this activity has very serious consequences. Austin Parks and Balcones Canyonland Preserve staff perform regular inspections throughout Emma Long and even have game cameras in place in their efforts to monitor activity. This new trail cutting is precisely the activity they are looking for, which will be used as justification to close trails or limit access / use of the park. This is not a joke or an exaggeration in any way. Please help me spread the word. I just closed up this newly established cheater trail at the Devil's Staircase cheater trail. In this case, great efforts were made to remove previously established barricade materials. Only MTB riders have been using this from my observations today, but it doesn't take long before Moto guys start using it and then it doesn't take long for the ledges that exist just below the surface to be exposed.....leading to more cheater trail. I had already started replacing rocks and barricade material when I snapped this pic. Edited December 15, 2019 by zrx24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zrx24 Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) After. I rarely ride this cheater trail section, so if anyone happens to notice new cheater trails forming in this (or any other area in the park) please do not hesitate to contact me. TIA Edited December 15, 2019 by zrx24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zrx24 Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 I really hate the look of stacked brush and branches along a trail. A single track through the woods, be it an animal path or a MTB trail is a beautiful thing. Barricades are like graffiti to me. Just plain ugly. I really hate having to do this. But I also hate the thought of losing this park. I LOVE this place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just rode CP for the first time in a long time today. Hard to know who is doing what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamsloan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 It might be a good idea to have placards made with the ARR logo and PARD logo stating the standard rules for not modifying the trail and to stay on the established path. These placards could then be zip tied to the “branch fences” that close the cheater lines. It gives the branch fences an authority standing behind them. Any biker that messes with them could then be tarred, feathered and then have their mountain bike taken, replaced with a hybrid and a map of the Town Lake bike and bike trail. :DSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 7 hours ago, Teamsloan said: It might be a good idea to have placards made with the ARR logo and PARD logo stating the standard rules for not modifying the trail and to stay on the established path. These placards could then be zip tied to the “branch fences” that close the cheater lines. It gives the branch fences an authority standing behind them. Any biker that messes with them could then be tarred, feathered and then have their mountain bike taken, replaced with a hybrid and a map of the Town Lake bike and bike trail. 😄 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I like this idea. The same idiots who are cutting the cheater lines probably see them being blocked off and just assume that some other idiot who does not know what they are doing is responsible. There needs to be an indication of why this is being blocked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zrx24 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Teamsloan said: It might be a good idea to have placards made with the ARR logo and PARD logo stating the standard rules for not modifying the trail and to stay on the established path. These placards could then be zip tied to the “branch fences” that close the cheater lines. It gives the branch fences an authority standing behind them. Any biker that messes with them could then be tarred, feathered and then have their mountain bike taken, replaced with a hybrid and a map of the Town Lake bike and bike trail. 😄 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk We've been considering making up signage to post at these problem areas. Great idea about using more official logo of some sort. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Most importantly on the logo, it comes across to everyone that this is the MTB community and not some random person. I think we all remember the "notices" posted on the GB a few years ago. They were professionally done, but by some crackpot individual, not an organization. They were full of incorrect information that people probably took as legit because of the look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAF Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Teamsloan said: It might be a good idea to have placards made with the ARR logo and PARD logo Or maybe the BCCP logo, a picture of a big black fence, and "IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT" in big lettering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zrx24 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 Maybe just post the signs the City used to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zrx24 Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 How about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tip Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, zrx24 said: How about this? Not the best option. These two entities are regarded as the enemy. The ARR logo would be much more persuasive to a mountain biker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamsloan Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 (edited) Yup, really needs the ARR logo on there. It's the whole, "Hey we're your friend that gets you in to da-club, don't make us mad." Having both the ARR logo and PARD shows that it's a partnership. ...it's really more like, "Hey friend, I got US in to da-club, don't screw this up for us by acting a fool." Edited December 16, 2019 by Teamsloan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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