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I think everyone has seen my rants about cutting/altering/fixing/etc trails. I am trying to not create another rant. But this need to be discussed among those who are here and want to keep using these trails.

From my experience when I find and talk to these folks, they think they are doing good. They don't seem to understand what they are doing has a good chance of getting the trail closed. That would be PERMANENTLY closed to all users. Signs help a very little bit but they do help. After all - they think they are doing good so that sign does not apply to what they are doing. No matter how the sign is worded or what logo is shown - people ignore the signs.

Two things seem to help. One is a 'polite conversation' between other users (mtb, moto, etc) about what could result from exactly what they are doing. The more other users that tell them that same thing the better. It takes time and numbers to convince them "the good" they are doing is really bad. Would everyone please help with those polite conversations???

The other thing that helps is game cameras and public shaming. Some people may have seen a few years ago when I posted such pictures on Facebook. Someone identified the person (by name). The result was he were told by a number of his friends that what he was doing was a problem. That problem stopped. Fortunately, I have not had to do that in years. Identifying the person and a private conversation is usually all it takes to correct.

Unfortunately, the problems are getting worse again. We can blame it on whatever we want - e.g. more users, new users, uneducated users, entitled users, etc. Regardless of the cause, we need to correct it if we want to keep riding the trails. Even more unfortunate is the BCP staff just told me that they bought a bunch of new game cameras. I hope to catch and correct problems BEFORE the BCP staff does. So if you see game cameras on many local trails (not just CP), they may be mine or they may be the land manager. If we want to continue to use the trails, we should all be trying to play by "the rules".

Just so people know, I was walking some 'bandit trails' with BCP staff to see if we can make them "official trails". The situation with the BCP staff has improved that much. It would not take much damage to reverse the improved relationship. 

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37 minutes ago, cxagent said:

From my experience when I find and talk to these folks, they think they are doing good. They don't seem to understand what they are doing has a good chance of getting the trail closed.

Might be worth riding CP at random times to try and catch em in the act. I'm happy to throw in a ride or two out there.

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TAF - I want everyone to ride as much as they can. Somebody needs to get in the rides I'm not. Talking to folks you meet is also a good thing.

notyal - experience has told me that telling people there are game cameras in the area does not go well. It works better to not say anything and use the pictures to document the problem. BTW - that same experience is to never install just one game camera. It needs to be multiple cameras with overlapping fields of view. That way one cameral documents what happens with the other(s).

RidingAgain - Go for it. Show everyone what you can do with a local mtb magazine. My time and energy is already completely booked up so badly I have not had time to ride. And I have the belly to show for it.

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Our trails really lack the “rules of the trail” that so many trail systems have. The rules of Walnut Creek are even not at the MTB “trailhead.”

I believe that a large Kiosk with

1. If you can’t ride it walk it. DO NOT CUT BYPASS TRAILS
2. Motos have ride of way
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5. To participate in authorized trail building, contact ARR


How would someone know not to cut a trail? Many riders think they are doing a service by stacking rocks and making a B line. They have no idea the history of a trail or how it got there.

There is one member of this forum that felt he could/should build a B line on every trail “per IMBA spec”. That’s an extreme example of someone... who should move to Houston.


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Just on an odd note...

It's always interesting to me, as a visual designer, how sometimes type setting does what it did in the image two above...

Look at how there is a straight vertical white space between the G and the N, the T and the U, the O and the T.

It's called a canyon or river.

Okay... Back to the subject.

 

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1 hour ago, FJsnoozer said:

There is one member of this forum that felt he could/should build a B line on every trail “per IMBA spec”. That’s an extreme example of someone... who should move to Houston.

 

 


And there's the troll. Just when things seemed to be going so well.

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5 hours ago, cxagent said:

RidingAgain - Go for it. Show everyone what you can do with a local mtb magazine. My time and energy is already completely booked up so badly I have not had time to ride. And I have the belly to show for it.


I might. Or maybe someone else could. It's also a way to earn dollars for funding trail builds and maintenance.

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52 minutes ago, Cafeend said:

Right , because print media is so lucrative now
 


Perhaps a little research before speaking would help...

https://www.foliomag.com/print-still-big-business-magazine-media/

Because it would help you better understand the industry dynamics...

https://www.thedrum.com/news/2019/06/10/the-true-power-print-advertising-undiminished-fall-spend

In relation to its consumer...

https://blog.wan-ifra.org/2019/06/07/at-wnmc19-re-igniting-the-purpose-of-print

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LOCAL... USEFUL... EVERYONE GETS IT!

"In September 2005, Community Impact Newspaper published by JG Media, Inc. launched its first edition in Round Rock, Pflugerville, Texas. There were six employees including the founder and publisher, John P. Garrett, and the company met in the game room in John’s house. Garrett was a former Advertising Director of the Austin Business Journal before he started Community Impact Newspaper.

In its first five years, Community Impact Newspaper added about 60 employees and launched 10 community newspapers, including its first in the Houston Metro area in September 2009. In 2010, in a period of heavy layoffs at newspapers and throughout the legacy media industry, Community Impact Newspaper experienced growth, and pushed the idea that "Print Ain't Dead." After expanding into the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area in March 2011, the media company was featured by Editor & Publisher, CISION and CultureMap Austin.

In late 2012, Community Impact Newspaper announced plans to build a new $2.5 million headquarters in Pflugerville, TX, and the 16,000-square-foot building was completed in December 2013. John P. Garrett was featured in Forbes shortly after the announcement. In June 2015, Community Impact Newspaper announced it would invest in a $10 million printing facility at its headquarters to begin printing all newspaper editions starting in 2016. Eight months after the company's 10-year anniversary in September 2015, Community Impact Newspaper launched its 21st local newspaper edition. Nine editions are in the Austin metro area, 10 editions in the Houston metro area and four editions the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area. The company employs about 200 "Impacters" in five offices throughout the state.

Community Impact Newspaper has received 106 awards for writing and design from the National Newspaper Association since 2007, including 16 Better Newspaper Contest awards in 2016. Community Impact Newspaper has also been named to Inc. Magazine's top 5000 fastest-growing companies for seven consecutive years, from 2011-2016.

Additionally, Community Impact Newspaper in 2016 opened a 36,000-square-foot printing facility adjacent to its headquarters in Pflugerville. Community Impact Printing, a $10 million press operation, prints all of the newspaper editions produced by Community Impact Newspaper staff. While the company is intensely focused on its quality print product, efforts to competitively expand daily news coverage online accelerated in 2016 Long-time Impacter Joe Lanane was promoted to the newspaper's Executive Editor in 2016.

In 2018, Community Impact Newspaper announced its first launch outside of Texas into Phoenix, Arizona, debuting its first area edition in Gilbert." — Wikipedia

Right here in your own backyard... And yet completely ignorant of it.


 

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Gaming is considered a cutting edge digital product...

And yet...

Here we have one of the leading gaming powerhouse companies... Publishing... Print products...

"...We’re the name behind successful brands in specialist consumer and B2B sectors including: technology, gaming & entertainment, music, creative & photography, home interest, education and television.  . . .  Every year we attract millions of consumers to our brands’ websites, magazines, events and social spaces."


https://www.futureplc.com

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I’d really love to leave a white board out there with some markers so all these rogue trail builders could share some wisdom with us as to WHY they do what they do. Building trail is hard...even rogue trails and B lines. They are trading riding for building and are probably pissed when they see their ‘new’ and ‘better’ trail blocked. I wonder if they have a bizarro forum out there where they cuss all the ‘sanitizers’.

We all owe a tremendous amount of gratitude to all the mountain bike representatives out there like cxagent that work to keep access to all other riders.


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A hundred grand???

 You thinking the magazine is printed with gold leaf... Or maybe the business rents some fancy penthouse office and hires dozens of workers to play foosball and pingpong all day?

The last print project I worked on was a full-color brochure of I think around 70-pages... The print run was a small order of just 2,500 units at a cost of around $3-$4 per unit. And the paper used was of a premium stock quality. All the work, including photography, copywriting, layout design, and project management was done by one person working out of a space in the company's stockroom.

Back in the early 2000s I bought ad space for a client in an annual (printed once a year) magazine for the Gold Coast of Florida. It was produce by a three-person team of mother, father, and daughter working out of a small office in a small office park located in a small coastal town, along with graphic work contracted out. Although the mother and father were semi-retired, this magazine grossed — by my estimates of ad space sold and subscription and retail sales — around $70-$80,000 for them. That amount with just one magazine printed once a year. The daughter handled the daily general office work, the mother handled the sales related business, and the father handled the production.

In the mid-90s a man whose daughter was in high school and beginning to look into colleges realized that there were no publications catering for high school kids considering colleges. He had an idea to publish one, quit his full time job, and started the business out of his garage while delivering pizza on the side. Within five years it became the top college-elated magazine for high school kids around the country.

So no... You don't need a hundred grand to successfully publish a magazine.

That kind of thinking is a nouveau riche Austin thing maybe.
 

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