TheX Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Just now, Chief said: The internet never forgets! Ain't that the truth! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Chief said: I've gotten to the point that I can unmount and remount a tire with sealant in it and not spill any. Damn dude - that's impressive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 All these posts about handling sealant like it's precious and surgical apparatuses are signs that y'all need homebrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 20 hours ago, Seths Pool said: Is it me or is tire sealant just about the most spill-prone liquid ON EARTH or what?!?! Seems like every time I open a bottle of it the universe just stops whatever it’s doing to absolutely insure that something happens and I spill that shit everywhere. Even if not spilling it is my #1 focus. 🤦♂️🤬🤦♂️🤬🤦♂️🤬🤦♂️ If you look at my garage floor it looks like a 14-year-old's bedroom. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 13 hours ago, Kyle said: All these posts about handling sealant like it's precious and surgical apparatuses are signs that y'all need homebrew. I don't consider it precious I buy it by the quart. I just don't like cleaning up the mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcarneytx Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 5:09 PM, RedRider3141 said: Confession Time: I have tubeless wheels, stems and sealant on hand but I'm still running tubes. Just make the switch. I had always thought it might've been a bit messy and painful, but it wasn't bad at all. I DID have CO2 cartridges on hand, which makes it really easy to seat the tires: Pull off tire/tube; clean rim (or just wipe with a rag you find on garage floor); install stem; mount tubeless tire; use high-pressure to seat tire (should actually hold air as is); let air out; remove valve core; use sealant syringe to add sealant; install valve core, pump to desired pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider3141 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 57 minutes ago, jcarneytx said: Just make the switch. I had always thought it might've been a bit messy and painful, but it wasn't bad at all. I DID have CO2 cartridges on hand, which makes it really easy to seat the tires: Pull off tire/tube; clean rim (or just wipe with a rag you find on garage floor); install stem; mount tubeless tire; use high-pressure to seat tire (should actually hold air as is); let air out; remove valve core; use sealant syringe to add sealant; install valve core, pump to desired pressure. Honestly, I think the biggest hangup for me is maintenance of the sealant itself. I only ride 3-4 times a month at best and when I go I rarely have much more time mess with checking/adding sealant if it's dried out. Maybe I'm making a bigger deal than it is but my heavy tubes aren't anything compared to the spare tire I carry around and I've yet to have a flat in 3 years of riding here. I know it's coming but that is why I carry a spare tube and pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, RedRider3141 said: Honestly, I think the biggest hangup for me is maintenance of the sealant itself. I only ride 3-4 times a month at best and when I go I rarely have much more time mess with checking/adding sealant if it's dried out. Maybe I'm making a bigger deal than it is but my heavy tubes aren't anything compared to the spare tire I carry around and I've yet to have a flat in 3 years of riding here. I know it's coming but that is why I carry a spare tube and pump. With Stan's I only add sealant every 4-6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 hour ago, RedRider3141 said: Honestly, I think the biggest hangup for me is maintenance of the sealant itself. I only ride 3-4 times a month at best and when I go I rarely have much more time mess with checking/adding sealant if it's dried out. Maybe I'm making a bigger deal than it is but my heavy tubes aren't anything compared to the spare tire I carry around and I've yet to have a flat in 3 years of riding here. I know it's coming but that is why I carry a spare tube and pump. For me it has zero to do with heavy tubes as I believe that plays very little into any concern (unsprung mass, rotational inertia, linear inertia.) It’s all about not even having to stop during a ride to change a tube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I've never noticed any extra weight having a tube in a tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider3141 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, AntonioGG said: It’s all about not even having to stop during a ride to change a tube. That's the thing, there's no ROI for me right now. 8 Years of riding, 3 of them here and I've never had a flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, RedRider3141 said: That's the thing, there's no ROI for me right now. 8 Years of riding, 3 of them here and I've never had a flat. After the next ride, let us know if you indeed (or not) jinxed yourself! 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 12 hours ago, RedRider3141 said: That's the thing, there's no ROI for me right now. 8 Years of riding, 3 of them here and I've never had a flat. I think the biggest advantage of running tubeless is better traction. So even though you personally may not gain anything in the reduced flats department, you should have much to gain in the traction department. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Tubeless has a better ride quality much more supple IMO. Saying this from a personal point just having switched my gravel bike to tubeless. With tubes the ride was harsher at the same air pressure as tubeless, I can actually run slightly higher pressure and still get a supple feeling ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I think the big advantage is not getting pinch flats.. not getting flats basically at all like the days of tubes. On one bike I have there are no less than 13 punctures on the rear but no flatting . I basically want to see how far I can push that tire. Try that with tubeless. You cant.I'll top off with air and then every few months add some Orange Sealant and that tire keeps rolling.I like tinkering anyways so the little work involved in a tubeless setup is not a big deal. Tubes were a pain sometimes.But pulling a valve.. filling it up is no big deal. Setting the new tires are what sucks to me but that was using tubes or tubeless. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 With the way some tires fit the rim, installing a tube would be almost impossible to do without pinching it. I need tire levers to install tires on my Nextie wheels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosmithy Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I would agree with the comments regarding traction and ride quality with tubeless. It's very noticeable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider3141 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 19 hours ago, AntonioGG said: After the next ride, let us know if you indeed (or not) jinxed yourself! 🙂 I'm out on SN/Boat Launch testing fate! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyt Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 10/29/2019 at 10:29 PM, Kyle said: I've been making my own sealant for years now. Comparing with my buddies it seems roughly as effective as Stan's at sealing and lasts far better through summer for a fraction of the price. The one thing I don't like about my recipe is that it uses regular car tire slime. My recipe: 16 oz latex mold builder 2 oz ammonia without added soap 32 oz pink RV antifreeze propylene glycol based 32 oz car tire slime Anyone have their own recipe that doesn't use tire slime? I was thinking about experimenting with Elmer's school glue which can be had by the gallon for cheap... 16 oz. mold maker (6.80) 6 tbsp ammonia (free) 16 oz. propylene glycol ($5) 1/4 tsp. xanthan gum (free) 32 oz. distilled water Order to add: • 16 oz water • 16 oz PG • 2 tsp xantham gum (1 tsp next time?) • 1 oz ammonia Mix with drill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosmithy Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Wait, what? You folks are carrying extra sealant?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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