taco_junkie Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Ahh crap now I've got some spare oil? Jenson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Ahh crap now I've got some spare oil? Jenson!I’d be surprised if PUSH was selling a kit with the wrong oil. Maybe it’s just the image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olddbrider Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, notyal said: I’d be surprised if PUSH was selling a kit with the wrong oil. Maybe it’s just the image. No, they sell the kit with 10wt for some reason. I actually talked to a guy from PUSH one day out at Spider Mtn. and asked his why they sold the kit with a different wt oil than what was recommended by the manufacturer. He didn't really have a good answer, but basically said he thought you could use 10wt and not notice much of a difference. The conversation didn't give me much confidence, but not long after that I sold the bike so I didn't end up following through with my plans to service the lowers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssorgs Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Friendly reminder that Velofix will come to you and service it same day in a couple of hours... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Yeah, James is good, and having someone show up at your house is pretty sweet these days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 15 hours ago, taco_junkie said: Ahh crap now I've got some spare oil? Jenson! Definitely just use the stuff in the kit. Bath oil is truly not a demanding job for oil and I'd be shocked if PUSH got it wrong. I contacted MRP about bath oil and they were like "5-10wt, or you know, whatever." I thought that wasn't specific enough and went down an oil research rabbit hole and it turns out the whole "wt" classification system has a ton of wiggle room. One brand of 10wt may be heavier than another 20wt. I've used Fox 20wt and Lucas 5wt in that fork and they were both fine, and I'm really picky about fork performance. Another pro tip: Use slick honey on the wiper seals instead of float fluid. (I actually don't know if fox still recommends float fluid in recent years) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Well, I ordered the wrong size seals. I guess that's a word of caution. Even if you search for "fox 34 seals", make sure it doesn't default to 32. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taco_junkie Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I noticed that when I was putting stuff in my cart almost made the same mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbike85 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) First time this has happened to me Noticed a flat yesterday after putting this bike up last Saturday. Almost every spoke is leaking on the front wheel. Best plan of action? I’ve never had to deal with this before. ETA: could it be as simple as a poor tubeless tape job that’s took 200 miles of riding to really uncover? Or is this a bigger problem? Would I start with re-tapeing? Edited June 20, 2020 by bestbike85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browndog Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 First time this has happened to me Noticed a flat yesterday after putting this bike up last Saturday. Almost every spoke is leaking on the front wheel. Best plan of action? I’ve never had to deal with this before. ETA: could it be as simple as a poor tubeless tape job that’s took 200 miles of riding to really uncover? Or is this a bigger problem? Would I start with re-tapeing? I think your wheel has rabies.I wonder if the heat has something to do with the tape degrading. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, bestbike85 said: First time this has happened to me Noticed a flat yesterday after putting this bike up last Saturday. Almost every spoke is leaking on the front wheel. Best plan of action? I’ve never had to deal with this before. ETA: could it be as simple as a poor tubeless tape job that’s took 200 miles of riding to really uncover? Or is this a bigger problem? Would I start with re-tapeing? What tape are you using? It only takes one spot to leak to cause something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 2 hours ago, bestbike85 said: First time this has happened to me Noticed a flat yesterday after putting this bike up last Saturday. Almost every spoke is leaking on the front wheel. Best plan of action? I’ve never had to deal with this before. ETA: could it be as simple as a poor tubeless tape job that’s took 200 miles of riding to really uncover? Or is this a bigger problem? Would I start with re-tapeing? My son's rear wheel did this. It had a homemade tubeless setup with what I'm guessing was gorilla tape (does it look like duct tape? I've never actually seen it). I took that tape off, cleaned very well and taped with Stan's tape. It still leaked. I then replaced the valve that was in there with a Stan's valve, and it still leaked. It eventually sealed up. My guess is there's some kind of micro-crack somewhere where the tape doesn't cover it. If you figure yours out, please post up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4fun Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Had the same problem with my wife’s wheel, the factory tubeless ready tape had peeled up in a small, let’s say 3/4 inch area. I ripped that tape off, cleaned the rim thoroughly and re taped with tried and true gorilla tape. No problems since! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbike85 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Chief said: What tape are you using? It only takes one spot to leak to cause something like that. These were taped from the factory, but if I re-tape it will be with gorilla tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbike85 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, 4fun said: Had the same problem with my wife’s wheel, the factory tubeless ready tape had peeled up in a small, let’s say 3/4 inch area. I ripped that tape off, cleaned the rim thoroughly and re taped with tried and true gorilla tape. No problems since! Nice. I’ve had continuous success (only 3 sets of wheels, but still success) with gorilla tape. Sounds like I have something to do after this stupid gender reveal party. Will keep you all posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 All you need is one bad spot and air will escape through all of the spoke holes. Once it hits that chamber it heads out everywhere. It may just be one spot but I would pull all the tape and retake the whole thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbike85 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Okay. Pulled the tire (and Cush core) off. Taped with gorilla tape. Still leaked. Put 30psi in it and rode around like a bat out of hell. No more leak (forgot the non-leaking pic). Set at 30 on the button over night. Will report back in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 tape really ought to go up the sidewall on the inside of the rim. the tape should be a bit wider than the rim. for example, if your rim is 25mm inside, you tape should be 29mm or so. rims often have additional holes in them from the manufacturing process that can let sealant into the rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbike85 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Update: over night the tire went from 30psi to 24. Not bad. I lean towards a bad tape job and now with a good tape job it’s just sealing up. Heading out for a ride now so if I holds at my standard pressure I think we have solved this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Generally any time I do tubeless it takes me a few rides before it truly "settles in" and holds air. Usually the first few times I need to put air in. The very first time I inflate, I typically hit somewhere in the mid to upper 40's then ride it around the block a few times. This typically takes care of the initial seating. Then, when I get home from rides I push it to the mid-upper 30's and it is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share Posted June 21, 2020 If that's a sleeved joint wheel that could be the problem. I've been using 3M 8896 basically kapton tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) I gave up on tape years ago and just started buying latex rim strips. Worth every penny https://www.effettomariposa.eu/en/products/caffelatex-tubeless-strip/ Edited June 21, 2020 by ATXZJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbike85 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Held up just fine on this mornings ride. Beware of bad factory tape jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 7 hours ago, ATXZJ said: I gave up on tape years ago and just started buying latex rim strips. Worth every penny https://www.effettomariposa.eu/en/products/caffelatex-tubeless-strip/ That's pretty cool. My son's specialized came with some kind of "2bliss" strips not installed. Has anyone used these strips? Is that sort of like the caffelatex strips? My other son's home rolled tubeless setup sucks. A burp results in the tire bead coming off and not being able to add pressure. I'm thinking I'll need a few more layers of tape to build up that shoulder so the tire seals up a bit better. It fits very loose on those rims. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuitbreaker Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 2:14 PM, mack_turtle said: diagonal cutters. squeeze the cable end in the blades until they crimp, but does not cut all the way through. crimp two diagonal lines, then a diagonal one connecting them like Zorro! Hey, this actually worked really well, thanks for the tip! i did have to do a few test ones to find the right amount of force. but really happy that my cable ends are now 'pretty'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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