AustinBike Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 1 hour ago, AntonioGG said: SS/geo experts, can I turn my 135 QR SS bike into 12x142 by changing to from 135mm to 142mm paragon-style sliders? Obviously wheels/hubs too. Also, I see Paragon no longer sells the sliders. I see a few options but maybe this is incentive for me to finish setting up my milling attachment to my tabletop lathe and modify my current ones. What kind of bike is it? I have some paragon sliders in my parts bin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, AustinBike said: What kind of bike is it? I have some paragon sliders in my parts bin... It's a Ritchey P29er. The original one with the sliders. You have 12x142mm sliders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 I would ask Paragon, but 142/135 should be interchangeable. Switching them to 148mm is unlikely to work, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Are these what you need? https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/catalog/product/view/id/3506/s/12-mm-left-side-insert-for-sliding-dropout-post-mount-160-rotor-choose-color/category/482/ https://www.paragonmachineworks.com/catalog/product/view/id/3514/s/12-mm-right-side-insert-for-sliding-dropout-no-hanger-choose-color/category/482/ Look under "adjustable dropouts" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 That's exactly it! I had seen them before and I searched and searched and couldn't find them. Thanks!! I found this company too: https://www.bikefabsupply.com/rear-dropouts-adjustable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 This is what I found in my bin: If you want to borrow these until you can get set up with the right ones, let me know. May also have the SS slider, but the hanger should not be an issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) they are difficult to find on PMW the site because they make sliders, dropouts, and inserts. I've owned two frames with inserts like that- Vassago and Soma. (I think US-made Vassago frames like the Verhauen used genuine PMW sliders/inserts, but the Jabberwocky was a bit cheaper by using generic sliders and inserts.) I think both used IRD sliders, which are basically the same thing as the PMW sliders. they are not a perfect match, but they should work interchangeably. PMW will tell you they are not the same thing, but that's mostly because they want you to buy their product, but also because they are not exactly the same thing, even if they work together. Edited June 11, 2021 by mack_turtle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 5 hours ago, AustinBike said: This is what I found in my bin: If you want to borrow these until you can get set up with the right ones, let me know. May also have the SS slider, but the hanger should not be an issue. The left side has the wrong caliper mount for me, but I'm now positive of what I need so I'll go ahead and order from PMW, thanks though! 4 hours ago, mack_turtle said: they are difficult to find on PMW the site because they make sliders, dropouts, and inserts. It was actually under Hanger/Inserts-->Adjustable Dropouts. I had been looking under Dropouts-->Adjustable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 hours ago, AntonioGG said: The left side has the wrong caliper mount for me, but I'm now positive of what I need so I'll go ahead and order from PMW, thanks though! It also has an adapter for post mount: I am not using it currently, it is a backup for my singlespeed in case I ever want to add gears. If you can use it until the PNW gets here, let me know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) Staying on the brake tip. As silly as they seem, these Muc Off covers were lifesavers for our bikes on the trip to AZ. It rained for 4hrs of driving on the way out of TX and these things kept the brakes nice and dry with no oil and grime from riding behind the car for over 2k miles. Brake squeal has been something I've battled for years and totally glad I spent $30 not to hear it. Edited June 13, 2021 by ATXZJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 OK, my 2019 Orbea Occam has XT brakes, the rear brake has internal routing to the frame. Just got a pair of XTRs and they are too nice for the hardtail so I am thinking about putting these on the Occam and moving the Occam's XT brakes over to the hardtail. I am assuming that the XT and the XTR cable attachments are exactly the same and I can leave the cable in place, just swapping the lever and the caliper for the real brake, right? The XTRs were going to need a full gravity bleed anyway so it does not seem like this should be much extra effort, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamsloan Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Usually a good idea to use new olive and barbs in this situation, but you risk shortening the hose too much when clipping the old hardware off.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 On my roadbike, I got a low end bike but swapped my Di2 stuff and I just unscrewed levers and calipers and screwed the new ones on. Of course that means I'll have to bleed. I have spare olives as a last resort or if I need to shorten the hose but I'm going to try it as-is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 My bike was rattling around on the rear end, really driving me crazy. Had checked everything and then I realized that the derailleur hanger bolt sheared off: The problem is that the bike is from Spain and nobody keeps the little $9 part hanging around. Luckily the axle had the size and thread pitch stamped on it (the through axle goes in one side of the hanger and the hanger bolt goes in the other...) While the total length on the bolt is only 5mm, I was able to find a reasonable solution: Yeah, it's not pretty, but it ultimately works: I think it might be a good idea to put some electrical tape on the frame underneath the washers, anyone else have a better idea? While doing some googling last night I found that a Nissan oil pan plug happens to also be the same size (M12-1.25) and it shorter so I ordered one on amazon and it should be here for the weekend. That should cut down the number of washers required. Because the bike ran fine for a few weeks before I was able to narrow down the problem I am pretty sure that I can make it like this for a few more weeks until those crazy Basque bastards get my bolts delivered. And the pro tip is to order two so that I don't ever have to go through this again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattlikesbikes Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Or you can get a longer bolt more washers and go grind some rails with that thing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Nah, I'm gonna take it off some sweet jumps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I'd be surprised if Breed & Co. does not have a shorter bolt that fits in there. find a nylon washer to space between the frame and the other washer and install with Loctite 242. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Nylon washer, good idea. Breed did not have anything shorter than 25mm. The oil plug should be ~15mm, we’ll see how that fits. I think it comes with a rubber washer… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, AustinBike said: Nylon washer, good idea. Breed did not have anything shorter than 25mm. The oil plug should be ~15mm, we’ll see how that fits. I think it comes with a rubber washer… hacksaw and a file. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, AustinBike said: Because the bike ran fine for a few weeks before I was able to narrow down the problem I am pretty sure that I can make it like this for a few more weeks until those crazy Basque bastards get my bolts delivered. And the pro tip is to order two so that I don't ever have to go through this again. Is this bike equipped with a maxle or maxle stealth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 6 hours ago, mack_turtle said: hacksaw and a file. I came here to post this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 7 hours ago, AustinBike said: My bike was rattling around on the rear end, really driving me crazy. Had checked everything and then I realized that the derailleur hanger bolt sheared off: The problem is that the bike is from Spain and nobody keeps the little $9 part hanging around. Luckily the axle had the size and thread pitch stamped on it (the through axle goes in one side of the hanger and the hanger bolt goes in the other...) While the total length on the bolt is only 5mm, I was able to find a reasonable solution: Yeah, it's not pretty, but it ultimately works: I think it might be a good idea to put some electrical tape on the frame underneath the washers, anyone else have a better idea? While doing some googling last night I found that a Nissan oil pan plug happens to also be the same size (M12-1.25) and it shorter so I ordered one on amazon and it should be here for the weekend. That should cut down the number of washers required. Because the bike ran fine for a few weeks before I was able to narrow down the problem I am pretty sure that I can make it like this for a few more weeks until those crazy Basque bastards get my bolts delivered. And the pro tip is to order two so that I don't ever have to go through this again. Send this to hack or bodge!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 30 minutes ago, AntonioGG said: Send this to hack or bodge!! I was seriously going to say the same thing. It's perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 13 hours ago, ATXZJ said: Is this bike equipped with a maxle or maxle stealth? Nope, just a standard 148 boost bolt on axle. The hanger threaded piece is ~1" in depth, the axle screws in one side and the hanger bolt screws in the other. The frame does not have a pivot at the axle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 14 hours ago, mack_turtle said: hacksaw and a file. The oil pan bolt should be here today according to Amazon, we'll see how that works. If it does not I might give this a try. My hesitation is that the depth for the bolt is pretty small and that means a bad cut is less forgiving. I'll see what this afternoon's frankebike modification brings me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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