ATXZJ Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) Was listening to a podcast the other day regarding covid. One of the virologist theorized covid would be similar to HIV in that it'd be with us in perpituity. Edited July 12, 2020 by ATXZJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quixoft Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 47 minutes ago, ATXZJ said: I don't believe there's any type of new age gaia or anything of that sort, just the natural order. We obviously need to do what it takes to control and hopefully cure this pandemic but failing to learn from this, and continuing on with a business as usual attitude will ultimately lead to our extinction. Deservedly so. Same here. I use Mother Nature anthropomorphicly because I like the way it sounds. It is cause and effect as we are simply disrupting things and feeling the effects. But I like the Mother Nature is angry play so I use it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quixoft Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Tree Magnet said: This is where I sit. Any other position opens us up to a wide variety of theories from aliens to Disney princesses. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk While I agree with you, much of the world believes in a god of some sort. Believing in Mother Nature is simply another version of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, bestbike85 said: In today’s age much of the population does not realize we a very vulnerable species to some of the smallest micro-organisms known (and unknown) to mankind. Or to any number of other ravages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, ATXZJ said: I don't believe there's any type of new age gaia or anything of that sort, just the natural order. I still have problems with that concept. There is cause and effect and infinite possibilities. All trends lead to increased chaos because there are no "closed systems." The Earth and the universe don't have a plan for us. We make our own fate to some degree and the rest is luck, good or bad. There is no "balance" or "order" just probability. The concept of balance, metaphors of scales and yin-yangs are popular because it absolves us of agency over the effects of our behavior. "God has a plan" and other such nonsense are unique to the modern era that comfort us in the face of all the knowledge we can never know and I reject it. I am not talking about nihilism here, just objective reality. Edited July 13, 2020 by mack_turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 13 hours ago, ATXZJ said: I don't believe there's any type of new age gaia or anything of that sort, just the natural order. We obviously need to do what it takes to control and hopefully cure this pandemic but failing to learn from this, and continuing on with a business as usual attitude will ultimately lead to our extinction. Deservedly so. It's amazing that since the 1940's we've made technological leaps and bounds but a hundred years since the last pandemic and we're handling it the same way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 16 hours ago, quixoft said: I've started to see reports of antibodies only lasting a few weeks to a couple months. If that is in fact true, a vaccine won't do shit. What do we do then? Most vaccines don't work with a single dose. That's why they do rounds of booster shots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Researchers struggle to find nice ways to say that people who don't engage in social distancing are morons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMR Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Instead of morons, have they tried Entitled Crybabies? What about "Me mentality"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JMR said: Instead of morons, have they tried Entitled Crybabies? What about "Me mentality"? those are good non-offensive, politically correct stand-ins for "moron" when you don't want to hurt the feeling of entitled snowflakes. tribalism and cognitive dissonance Edited July 13, 2020 by mack_turtle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just call 'em "anti maskers" and be done with it. That is not a name that will age well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMR Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 "The images are everywhere: People crowded face-to-face in swimming pools, shoulder-to-shoulder in indoor bars, cheering without masks at a rally held by President Trump, who often downplays the global pandemic." Yet no mention of "peaceful protests", Walmart, Home Depot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, JMR said: Yet no mention of "peaceful protests", Walmart, Home Depot... Given the subject matter, it is supremely ironic that you appear to not have read, or willfully refuse to acknowledge, the next few paragraphs where he addresses BLM protests. Edited July 13, 2020 by mack_turtle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMR Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, mack_turtle said: Given the subject matter, it is supremely ironic that you appear to not have read, or willfully refuse to acknowledge, the next few paragraphs where he addresses BLM protests. Ah, yes. I didn't get that far. I was thrown off by all the big words used. I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Even the worst of neocon bureaucrats is having to publicly acknowledge deaths will increase. So explain to me how this is a leftie-cuck-commie, global conspiracy again? "Greg Abbott again warned that he expects hospitalizations and deaths to continue to rise." https://www.statesman.com/news/20200710/with-record-10000-in-hospital-abbott-warns-lsquothings-will-get-worsersquo Edited July 13, 2020 by ATXZJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) If you need a break from the rhetorical autofellatio spewing from our politicians, have a listen. Edited July 13, 2020 by ATXZJ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Stats for the US as of this morning. Worldometer of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Hmmm, MEDIA Texas ER doctor: Emergency rooms and intensive care units are 'bulging at the seams' But...this says they aren't. WTH? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Dude, ERs and ICUs are two different things. You need to either learn the difference or stop posting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFisher Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) You aren't even trying any more. That says how long it takes to be greeted, not the ICU and ER are empty. You are turning into the new RA. Edited July 14, 2020 by GFisher 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, AustinBike said: Dude, ERs and ICUs are two different things. You need to either learn the difference or stop posting. seriously, FFS @TheX. saying ignorant stuff and not responding to people who point out the contradictions is juvenile. you can't just post some non-sequitur, drop the mic and walk out of the conversation without standing up to scrutiny from your peers. if you just want to shout at us and stick your fingers in your ears instead of taking personal responsibility for the critiques you deserve, GTFO. Edited July 14, 2020 by mack_turtle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Good update from Campbell RE COVID infections in america. Can confirm doctors at our center told us they are waiting an average of 48hrs to receive results for tests performed on their staff members. They were frustrated that they were losing capacity waiting for results, when they need staff there the most. Wife's doctor said hospital is 10 days away from capacity at current trend. Edited July 14, 2020 by ATXZJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 52 minutes ago, mack_turtle said: seriously, FFS @TheX. saying ignorant stuff and not responding to people who point out the contradictions is juvenile. you can't just post some non-sequitur, drop the mic and walk out of the conversation without standing up to scrutiny from your peers. if you just want to shout at us and stick your fingers in your ears instead of taking personal responsibility for the critiques you deserve, GTFO. "There is no way that Specs is out of Buckethead IPA. I was just at HEB and they had a whole endcap of Keystone Light! It's all fake!" 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 From a very reliable source, ERs in at least one Texas metro area are getting slammed with COVID-19. Patients who would normally get admitted are being given home oxygen and discharged with instructions to see their PCP because appropriately staffed hospital beds are filling up fast. This is not a good scenario. For what it's worth, my source is a staunch republican. Seems the only folks spewing BS are those dumb enough to be influenced by conspiracy propaganda. While that shit works well for herding the sheep on FB, thankfully folks here appear impervious to the nonsense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, GFisher said: You are turning into the new RA. LOL... Nice troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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