RidingAgain Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Got an email from Strava about changes to their service... See here... https://www.strava.com/subscription?utm_campaign=founders_letter&utm_source=strava&utm_medium=email&%24web_only=true&%243p=e_it&%24original_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.strava.com%2Fsubscription%2F%3Futm_campaign%3Dfounders_letter%26utm_source%3Dstrava%26utm_medium%3Demail%26%24web_only%3Dtrue&_branch_match_id=776906402518333131 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) Here are some online articles about it... https://www.runnersworld.com/uk/gear/a32567204/strava-free-subscriber/ https://cyclingtips.com/2020/05/strava-shake-up-major-changes-for-paid-and-free-users/ https://www.bikeradar.com/news/strava-leaderboards-routes-subscription/ This one is pretty detailed... https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2020/05/strava-cuts-off-leaderboard-for-free-users-reduces-3rd-party-apps-for-all-and-more.html Edited May 19, 2020 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted May 19, 2020 Author Share Posted May 19, 2020 As usual... Check out the comments below the articles... Lots of interesting feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Between recording (650 hours+) and just looking at my rides and other folks rides (guessing up to 3 hours a week), I'm using Strava for up to 800 hours per year. So yeah, it's time for those folks to get paid. And now for me it's only $0.075 per hour. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 you mean I have to pay them to tell me how much I suck now? lame! I can get that info for free because it's obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 They had a good marketing pitch “for the cost of a couple energy bars per month...” However, I get 95% of what I need from garmin for free because I use a garmin, so if the free version ever goes away I would just stick with garmin. Don’t really care much about what people think of my riding, for me it is just a place to hold data. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, AustinBike said: Don’t really care much about what people think of my riding, for me it is just a place to hold data. I don't care either, and I think for what like Strava (PRs on segments) it will not affect me. However, I wonder about the leaderboards. I couldn't find the details. Will non-subscribers go on the leaderboard, but not be able to see the leaderboard? Or will only paid subscribers only go on the leaderboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I am only in the loserboards, too slow to be a contender anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider3141 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I'm selfishly opposed. I do what I can to minimize subscriptions, especially to things I use sparingly. I avoid them even more when the slowly erode free features and constantly remind me I could pay to be annoyed less by their own ads. I created a new email account to take advantage of a 6-month free Spotify offer that was sent to me but was only for new users. Free Strava/ Free Fitbit aren't too bad yet. I think the features I'll miss on Strava Free are the the comparisons on matched runs and rides (new for rides). When prepping for my 1/2 marathon I really liked that feature and wanted it on rides. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I'm selfishly opposed. I do what I can to minimize subscriptions, especially to things I use sparingly. I avoid them even more when the slowly erode free features and constantly remind me I could pay to be annoyed less by their own ads. I created a new email account to take advantage of a 6-month free Spotify offer that was sent to me but was only for new users. Free Strava/ Free Fitbit aren't too bad yet. I think the features I'll miss on Strava Free are the the comparisons on matched runs and rides (new for rides). When prepping for my 1/2 marathon I really liked that feature and wanted it on rides. I agree. Taking features away from the free app kinda pisses me off. I don’t want another subscription. I’d rather start seeing ads from Jenson and Shimano on my feed if they are looking to increase revenue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider3141 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, notyal said: I’d rather start seeing ads from Jenson and Shimano on my feed if they are looking to increase revenue. Actually yeah, that wouldn't be so bad and I'm usually opposed to targeted advertising but that seems better somehow. Edited May 20, 2020 by RedRider3141 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 23 hours ago, mack_turtle said: you mean I have to pay them to tell me how much I suck now? lame! I can get that info for free because it's obvious. Yeah. Lots of people voluntarily tell me how much I suck and I don't pay them a penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Yeah, just wait until the folks at austinbike world headquarters start to hear about this. We can charge you money and tell you that you suck, just two of the many services that we provide. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quixoft Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) On 5/19/2020 at 12:44 PM, Barry said: Between recording (650 hours+) and just looking at my rides and other folks rides (guessing up to 3 hours a week), I'm using Strava for up to 800 hours per year. So yeah, it's time for those folks to get paid. And now for me it's only $0.075 per hour. This is how I feel. It's not expensive and if you like it and use it frequently, is it really that big of a deal to compensate the people that are giving you something you enjoy? Free stuff is great and all but in the end people have bills to pay and they cannot do that if they aren't compensated for their work. Edited May 25, 2020 by quixoft 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 To say they "aren't compensated" is the miscalculation of the month. They get your data. They sell your data. They make money off of every single person, regardless of their subscription. The real question is whether your data = equal to free subscription. At this point my answer is yes. I would also be open to consider a model where I pay the $5 monthly fee and they keep my data private. I just don't want a model where I pay per month AND they get to sell my data. Not enough transparency as to whether or not I am being taken advantage of. In all honesty I have my rides dumping into Strava, but they are all in Garmin. Since I don't really use all of the social stuff, if Strava went away I would not care much. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Decided to get membership. Can confirm that I am paying Strava to tell me how much I suck. It's super low key tho. After a 3.5 hours trail ride that I was dead after, Strava was like, good job managing your efforts. Today Strava recommended that I ride more than 13 hours this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 13 hours ago, AustinBike said: Since I don't really use all of the social stuff, if Strava went away I would not care much. If Strava went away - I would do a dance for joy. No longer having to defend people riding "unsanctioned" trails. No longer having to deal with people who lack the skills finding and trying to ride trails they have no business on. Etc. Etc Etc. I talked to the Strava folks many years ago telling them they would get many of the best trails shut down. (The best trails are not public knowledge.) But since they were really a "road app", they didn't recognize what "unsanctioned trails" meant. If you like Strava and use Strava - you should pay for Strava. And you should pay for the trails you ride too. Or stay on the road. After all, the roads you ride you paid for with taxes. The trails your ride? Somebody paid for those with labor and sweat. Maybe you should pay something too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbike85 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I have to admit, the new strava route builder is a huge upgrade from the previous version. The $60 for the year might be worth it for that alone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 I deleted my Stava account over a month ago. don't miss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider3141 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 I'm right on the edge of just deleting my account or at least turning off all notifications so I can silently track my equipment. I think I will try their free trial but I am pretty sure I won't be able to justify the cost for what I get out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 There is no need to do the trial. If all you are doing is tracking your total mileage you can continue to do that with the free account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider3141 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 7:03 AM, AustinBike said: There is no need to do the trial. If all you are doing is tracking your total mileage you can continue to do that with the free account. That's all I am doing now after the change. Previously I was gauging personal progress against my previous runs/bikes on specific segments. Now I can't without paying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I feel like I am missing out. I am very much not a competitive person. I didnt even know you can do all of this. I just track miles\times for myself. Search for new trails is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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