RidingAgain Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Having identified a few important considerations regarding two mtb organizations here in Austin... What, moving forward, would the perfect mtb scenario/environment for local mtbers look like? We've heard lots of thoughts regarding what's happening in other cities — especially Bentonville — that have some sort of definite mtb development plan in place and being executed... How, if at all, should/does this kind of development thinking relate to the local mtb environment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) Hot Springs, Arkansas... Santos, Florida Kingdom Trails, Vermont Bentonville, Arkansas Edited January 1, 2019 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyt Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) local billionaire (michael dell, joe liemandt, robert smith, tito, john paul devoria - patron, and one other I know of) takes up mountain biking, buys thousands of acres of land and builds trails. local billionaire packs the city council, travis county trustees, and BCP board to get BCP opened up to mountain bikers. Edited January 2, 2019 by crazyt 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 7 hours ago, crazyt said: local billionaire (michael dell, joe liemandt, robert smith, tito, john paul devoria - patron, and one other I know of) takes up mountain biking, buys thousands of acres of land and builds trails. local billionaire packs the city council, travis county trustees, and BCP board to get BCP opened up to mountain bikers. Is there a "...local billionaire..." involved in the Hot Springs, Arkansas mtb trail building development? So Bentonville lucked out... Is that how it has to be everywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 Here's someone who is kind of taking a different, more private sector development direction... https://www.outsideonline.com/2266516/florida-keys-fishing-guides-bounce-back-irma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 So... What's the vision for Austin's mtb community to buy into? Is there any? Here's how IMBA presents itself... And... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) And although not as eloquent/flowery... FR512 presents this... "Biking Rad"... It brings back memories... My very first organization effort was back in the summer of '77 I think, been a long time.... The Radical Riders Skateboard Club. Had maybe two dozen members, one of which had a wealthy father who built a 10' quarter pipe for us. We also held the first and only (that I know of) downhill skateboard competition. Lasted for just the summer, then everyone went back to school. Pretty rad while it lasted though. Oh yes... Just remembered... I was also able to get us on TV, as a special short segment during the sports news on the one channel we had. Edited January 4, 2019 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 7 hours ago, RidingAgain said: And although not as eloquent/flowery... FR512 presents this... So you're a member too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, TheX said: So you're a member too? Wouldn't you like to know. BTW... Didn't you say you were done with me? LOL... Just stuck in your brain I am. See how that works... Troller TheX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Now back to the topic... Here's a list of maybe 500+ mtb organizations in the USA... https://www.singletracks.com/mountain-bike/club.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Here's a lits that's Texas specific... https://www.mtbproject.com/directory/clubs/texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) And here's a new organization that's got a bit of a wider than mtb scope regarding trails... https://www.trail.care Make sure and check out their "ABOUT" page... Interesting approach... https://www.trail.care/about/ And here are a lit of the organizations supporting this effort... https://www.trail.care/orgs/ Edited January 4, 2019 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Starting with kids is an important part of helping the community grow into any sport with the proper understanding of how to positively impact it as they become adults. Here an organization that supports this endeavor... https://rascalrides.com And here is a list of related local organizations... https://rascalrides.com/youth-cycling-clubs-development-programs-family-bike-rides/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 And while we're on the subject of kids... Check out this list of organizations that put on summer camps for kids... https://www.bicycling.com/rides/g20039017/best-summer-cycling-camps-for-kids/?slide=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Helping kids learn and have fun... Great way to get the attention and support of adults... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Shoot... Even the big bike manufacturers know this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 Now earlier in this thread the matter of billionaires being needed... For their... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) But... Maybe there are other ways... Part 1... https://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-trails/how-mtb-organizations-raise-money-for-trails/ Part 2... https://www.singletracks.com/blog/trail-advocacy/trail-funding-part-ii-how-trail-organizations-spend-money/ Edited January 4, 2019 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) Recreational Trails Program (RTP) "Under MAP-21, the Recreational Trails Program (RTP) is maintained as a distinct source of funding, although its funds are now drawn from the larger Transportation Alternatives funding pool. This program is managed by trail administrators and is a grant program designed to be competitive; therefore, only projects that meet certain criteria may be funded. These include the maintenance and restoration of existing trails, development or rehabilitation of trailside and trailhead facilities and linkages, acquisition of necessary easements, associated administrative costs, and new trails and educational programs. At least 30 percent of all RTP funds must be used for non-motorized trails. Unfortunately, states can now opt out of the RTP and re-designate the funds toward other transportation projects in the state. For 2013, only the governors of Florida and Kansas chose this option. Those seeking to build a trail in either of these states should be aware that they are unable to apply for RTP funds and are advised to contact their state trails administrator to discuss alternative sources of funding. For the vast majority of states, the RTP remains an important source of funding for trail development; since 1995, this program has helped construct more than 100 miles of trail. Unlike the Transportation Alternatives program, private organizations are eligible for funds under the RTP, although this depends on the particular policies of each state..." See more here... https://www.railstotrails.org/build-trails/trail-building-toolbox/funding/acquisition-funding/ Edited January 4, 2019 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 And what about Walmart... Areas of Funding "...Quality of life: Improving access to recreation, arts or cultural experiences for low income individuals and families in the United States" More here... http://giving.walmart.com/walmart-foundation/community-grant-program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) How to attract wealthy supporters... "...Donors might make a token gift to meet a need because someone they know asks them, but they reserve their biggest contributions for opportunities that excite them." https://www.insidephilanthropy.com/home/2017/1/19/a-fundraising-luminary-shares-secrets-of-attracting-wealthy-supporters Edited January 4, 2019 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 hours ago, RidingAgain said: Wouldn't you like to know. So in other words, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, TheX said: So in other words, no. If it in any way involves the spending of money, the answer will always be no. Put that on the list with all the other shit this tire kicker has been dreaming about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 I guess the trolls above will be... well... trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, TheX said: So in other words, no. Wouldn't you like to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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