JRA Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) I just saw Park is now making jis screwdrivers.https://www.parktool.com/product/derailleur-screwdriver-dsd-2?category=General Shop Tools. A couple years ago I bought a set of these(different brand) to use on an old 80s Honda CB I was rebuilding and the fit and bite was way better than any craftsman or snap-on phillips head I had. I use these pretty much exclusively on bicycles now and never have fit problems or stripped screw heads. These go a little deeper into the screw making already bunged up screw heads a little easier to deal with. One of the best upgrades you can do for your tool box for under 20 bucks, this is the set I have. Edited January 10, 2019 by JRA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamsloan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 *snicker. Oh the places this thread would go on Mojo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I've always wondered if there were a screwdriver that actually fit the screws I keep rounding out. This 'splainz it nicely. Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 *snicker. Oh the places this thread would go on Mojo.The words stripper, deeper and screw popped out for some reasonSent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Cafeend said: The words stripper, deeper and screw popped out for some reason Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Notice that the smallest one in the photo has a "spinner" sitting atop the bulbous handle. Edited January 10, 2019 by Ridenfool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Those Japs sure know how to screw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Notice that the smallest one in the photo has a "spinner" sitting atop the bulbous handle.All that for $20Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, notyal said: Those Japs sure know how to screw. Not really, the biggest problem Japan faces is low birth rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 This thread brings back memories. Back in the '80s I was an IBM engineer doing mainframes. I also did consulting and component level repairs of the new PCs coming out of Japan. American screwdrivers did NOT work well on them. I paid dearly for a set of Japanese screwdrivers but they just plain worked on that hardware. This is the only other reference I've seen to that standard in all these years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 The big bit sets have different types of cross-shaped bits. I've never bothered to check which is which, but there is definitely a difference in how well the engage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_screw_drives 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Not really, the biggest problem Japan faces is low birth rate.I fail to see the connection between screwdrivers and birth rates. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Furthermore, I’d like to commend the Japanese people for both their excellence in hand tools and for not contributing to the growing problem of over human population. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Not really, the biggest problem Japan faces is low birth rate.Or they have engineered really good birth controlSent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Cafeend said: Or they have engineered really good birth control Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Actually, that could be part of the situation. Out of wedlock birth rates are in the low single digits in Japan. In the US? North of 40% or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tip Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 14 hours ago, Teamsloan said: *snicker. Oh the places this thread would go on Mojo. And rapidly did here too. I saw this thread yesterday and didn't open it. Then this morning I see "13 responses." Huh? Why the big interest in screwdrivers for heaven's sake? Ah! Got it. Isn't "bulbous" a great word or what? That will be my word of the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRA Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 11 hours ago, notyal said: I fail to see the connection between screwdrivers and birth rates. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk It's the bulbous ends. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_papa_nuts Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I bought a bunch of JIS screwdrivers for the shop when I learned this 6 or 7 years ago. Spent a decent amount of time looking for a percision driver (the one with swivel handle) to keep in my apron for quick access. Then SRAM and Shimano switched to allens on their limit screws and my screwdriver use dropped off drastically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Bug Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) An Atlantic article attributes the low birth rate to the rise of the gig economy in Japan. Superficially it looks like the economy is full steam ahead, but because part-time work is counted in employment statistics, the 3% unemployment rate in Japan is misleading and many young Japanese men are piecing together several part-time jobs to make ends meet. The Mystery of Why Japanese People Are Having So Few Babies Many point to unromantic 20-somethings and women’s entry into the workforce, but an overlooked factor is the trouble young men have in finding steady, well-paid jobs. Google "low Japanese birth rate" and a ton of articles pop up. From a quick google search on availability of birth control in Japan: Abortion has been available in Japan since 1949 and there is no moral stigma attached to getting one. It is especially considered an option for couples that conceive out of wedlock, which could certainly account for the low number of out-of-wedlock babies vs. the US. Relatively recent statistics show there are about 250,000 to 300,000 abortions are performed each year. Japanese women are big on condom use (80% prefer it); birth control pills not so much but the increasing number of young women using the pill is cutting the number of abortions. Where were we? Oh, right. Yesterday I was at Breeds Hardware on 29th St. If you've ever been to the original (and awesome) Breeds on 29th St., you know it's half hardware with guys in red vests and the other half is high end kitchen stuff/gardening. I was admiring their display of gorgeous Japanese kitchen knives. There were no prices listed for those, so I'm assuming they are out of my price range, but the German ones are an option (> $100). Early on ARR (Spicewookie) bought some wonderful Japanese pruning saws (Samurai brand!) for trail work. They cut on the pull, require a deft touch with some finesse and trail work days tend to be high on the hearty masculine energy spectrum; there were some tool casualties -- bent blades. I think Fiskars brand folding saws and pruning saws are now in use. Edited January 11, 2019 by June Bug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongo Loco Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Spent a decent amount of time looking for a percision driver (the one with swivel handle) to keep in my apron for quick access. That’s what she said!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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