Peddlers Pass Lap Times

[DesertNomad]

One thing I am planning on doing ahead of the race, probably late April or into May, is put on a cornering clinic free for registered racers on a first come basis.  I can help guys struggling to find some speed to cut a lot of time for less effort.  

 

I’ll have some sort of sign up later for it and will post here before the list goes live. 

Edited March 30, 2019 by DesertNomad

[AntonioGG]

2 hours ago, DesertNomad said:

One thing I am planning on doing ahead of the race, probably late April or into May, is put on a cornering clinic free for registered racers on a first come basis.  I can help guys struggling to find some speed to cut a lot of time for less effort.  

 

I’ll have some sort of sign up later for it and will post here before the list goes live. 

That might make me sign up right there!

[AntonioGG]

2 hours ago, RedRider3141 said:

A few things I got to work on: 

• My Hands go numb about 12-15min in from my death grip. Got to relax a bit, maybe try ergon grips?
• I can't quite make it out of the creek bed heading West. I break traction right at the top and spin out. 

Which fingers go numb?  All 4 and your thumb?  Pinky and ring? Index middle and thumb?  Depending on which, you can figure out where your nerve is getting pinched.  I love Ergon grips but you also have to set the levers properly.  Go ride around with a 4 and 5mm wrench and play with lever position.

For the creek, it's hard to power up it with slick wet tires.  It's more of a body English, build the speed and stand up as you go down, then lighten the front as you go up and bring your butt down as you push the bike forward.

[RedRider3141]

17 minutes ago, AntonioGG said:

Which fingers go numb?  All 4 and your thumb?  Pinky and ring? Index middle and thumb?  Depending on which, you can figure out where your nerve is getting pinched.  I love Ergon grips but you also have to set the levers properly.  Go ride around with a 4 and 5mm wrench and play with lever position.

For the creek, it's hard to power up it with slick wet tires.  It's more of a body English, build the speed and stand up as you go down, then lighten the front as you go up and bring your butt down as you push the bike forward.

All 4 fingers go numb. I can get the feeling to come back by relaxing one at a time and squeezing my grip but it slows me down a lot. I'll try adjusting the levers, thanks!

[throet]

9 hours ago, Chief said:

Gonna give it a run on my hardtail. See if that improves time. I'm usually faster by about 2mins through 1/4& DD on my hardtail.

I had similar thoughts this morning. Moved the rear shock on my Primer to the 115mm position, which I had never tried before, and also added air to both the shock and fork which left it riding really firm. I was pushing really hard and felt like I was going to beat my previous best time, but ended up a full minute off. Back to the drawing board!    

[AntonioGG]

14 minutes ago, throet said:

I had similar thoughts this morning. Moved the rear shock on my Primer to the 115mm position, which I had never tried before, and also added air to both the shock and fork which left it riding really firm. I was pushing really hard and felt like I was going to beat my previous best time, but ended up a full minute off. Back to the drawing board!    

My SS feels faster (tried to do a fast lap but broke the chain right at the start) but I think it's because of the steep head angle.  It's also smaller overall I think.  I'll try to get back out there this week and compare.  I'm really curious about whether it just feels fast or whether it is.

[Tree Magnet]

My fastest lap was after a 5 minute rest after I had just finished trying to set my fastest lap. I went out slower and smoother and ended up feeling like I was getting into a rhythm. There really is something to just trying to be smooth and not mashing the pedals.

I’m really stoked to see everyone out there pushing themselves. This is a great concept with a great trail.


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[Chief]

13 hours ago, throet said:

 but ended up a full minute off. Back to the drawing board!    

Same here. Exactly 1 minute slower. 21:05. I felt it was harder to maintain momentum on the HT the FS sucks up a lot of the chatter. I also felt slower on the straights going into turns although the HT didn't feel like the front tire wanted to wash like my FS I think that's just due to not carrying as much speed. The HT was a handful through the ditch a lot of bouncing around on the rocks which I don't get on my FS. The fork on my HT, a basic Yari is also not as plush as the Diamond on my FS hands were hurting about halfway through ride. So back to the FS and working on technique and playing with tire pressure. The HT shaves a bit of time off Deception when I ride but I think that's just because it's better suited for that type of riding

Edited March 31, 2019 by Chief

[DesertNomad]

https://www.facebook.com/events/443522663065492/

You can now sign up for a cornering clinic if you are registered. 

 

[Yosmithy]

4 hours ago, DesertNomad said:

https://www.facebook.com/events/443522663065492/

You can now sign up for a cornering clinic if you are registered. 

 

I would sign up for the race, just to be able to do this clinic. Although, 4 hours of this clinic would kill my fat-ass.

[RedRider3141]

4 hours ago, DesertNomad said:

https://www.facebook.com/events/443522663065492/

You can now sign up for a cornering clinic if you are registered. 

 

PM sent via FB. Looking forward to it thanks!

[DesertNomad]

14 minutes ago, Yosmithy said:

I would sign up for the race, just to be able to do this clinic. Although, 4 hours of this clinic would kill my fat-ass.

Make the race a goal and work towards it. It’s 11-12 weeks away.  Between now and then your fitness could do a complete 180.  

[HoneyBadger]

On 3/29/2019 at 12:26 PM, First-Blood said:

 

 

I had big knobby tires and I beat you. So what's your advice now?

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For me to do a full-speed run.

[Txduc]

On 3/30/2019 at 6:44 PM, AntonioGG said:

My SS feels faster (tried to do a fast lap but broke the chain right at the start) but I think it's because of the steep head angle.  It's also smaller overall I think.  I'll try to get back out there this week and compare.  I'm really curious about whether it just feels fast or whether it is.

YMMV but I took the SS HT out this evening and hit Peddlers as part of my route.  Took it easy, not slow but did not push it either, felt slow and the lose rocks made for a bumpy ride.  Was 30 sec slower than my last run through on the geared full squish.  I expected a bigger time difference based on how it felt combined with not working too hard.

[cxagent]

Your post does not surprise me at all. I have found that the HT single speed is not as much of a disadvantage as I thought. There are only a few places that I can ride the geared FS bike that I can't ride on the SS. My fastest time *UP* Pump House is on the single speed. I thought it was wrong but then I figured out that I have ride a pace that I can keep pedaling  the SS so I have to go faster. Now that I am older and fatter, I may have to gear the SS lower. Or lose weight and get in shape. (I will order that new sprocket now.)

My other comment is that I have also found that I can spend a LOT more energy for not much gain. If I ride smooth and flow I feel like I am not going that fast. But if I try to go faster I end up braking more into corners and trying to recover speed on the exit. I spend TONS more energy but not change my lap time by much. Same thing riding Thumper. Find the flow and just hold it. Thumper is great fun that way. If I can't find the flow then Thumper punishes me.

The point to all of this is that smooth is fast and less effort. The trick is to find what works best for you.

[AntonioGG]

7 hours ago, cxagent said:

My other comment is that I have also found that I can spend a LOT more energy for not much gain. If I ride smooth and flow I feel like I am not going that fast. But if I try to go faster I end up braking more into corners and trying to recover speed on the exit. I spend TONS more energy but not change my lap time by much. 

My feeling as well.

[throet]

Just for kicks I rode it tonight on my 27.5 long-travel bike and recorded my slowest time yet. Was still a lot of fun though. Might try to get back out there tomorrow for a PR on my every-day 29er. Traction should be improved after the light rain tonight. 

[Morealice]

On 3/30/2019 at 12:46 PM, RedRider3141 said:

All 4 fingers go numb. I can get the feeling to come back by relaxing one at a time and squeezing my grip but it slows me down a lot. I'll try adjusting the levers, thanks!

I was having numb finger issues and I fixed it by stretching my hands/wrists?

turn hand palm up, straighten arm, pull fingers one at a time down toward the floor with other hand and hold for 20sec or so...I personally believe it helps to stretch in a direction counter to what your hands have been doing so much...it’s like doing an anti-grip

as i get older I’m finding daily stretching overall VERY beneficial to reducing pain. It’s gotta be a huge key. 

I rode Peddlers tonight (not timing on strava or otherwise)...saw some dude blow through and drop me like a bad habit. Discouraged me to race, but if it’s not 98 degrees and 98% humidity I’ll come watch you fools punish yourselves for a bit. 

Edited April 4, 2019 by Morealice

[Yosmithy]

Not to go into the whole medical history thing, but I've been fighting numbs hand, loss of feeling, loss of dexterity  for many years. I stopped riding dirtbikes because of it, and stopped competitive shooting because of it a while ago. Recently one of the reasons I had to get off the mountain bike was also because of this. For the past year, I have been unable to sleep for more than 10 minutes because my hands go numb (both). It had become so debilitating I was ready to get surgery (that I had been holding off for years). I went into the hand specialist 2 weeks ago. It was no surprise that they diagnosed me with Carpal tunnel syndrome and Cubital tunnel syndrome. Instead of surgery that I was earlier told I would need, they just gave me steroid injections in both wrists for the Carpal tunnel and started me on PT for the Cubital part. The very first night after the injections I slept the entire night. In another 2 days I went out and rode my bike for over and hour with no numbness. Fawking amazed!! I'm still working on the Cubital tunnel with PT, but it's improving. 

 If this shit is bothering you, go get checked out....it's easy fix (for most) and cheap (if you have some insurance)

I think it even made my penis longer too!!

[4fun]

2 hours ago, Yosmithy said:

Not to go into the whole medical history thing, but I've been fighting numbs hand, loss of feeling, loss of dexterity  for many years. I stopped riding dirtbikes because of it, and stopped competitive shooting because of it a while ago. Recently one of the reasons I had to get off the mountain bike was also because of this. For the past year, I have been unable to sleep for more than 10 minutes because my hands go numb (both). It had become so debilitating I was ready to get surgery (that I had been holding off for years). I went into the hand specialist 2 weeks ago. It was no surprise that they diagnosed me with Carpal tunnel syndrome and Cubital tunnel syndrome. Instead of surgery that I was earlier told I would need, they just gave me steroid injections in both wrists for the Carpal tunnel and started me on PT for the Cubital part. The very first night after the injections I slept the entire night. In another 2 days I went out and rode my bike for over and hour with no numbness. Fawking amazed!! I'm still working on the Cubital tunnel with PT, but it's improving. 

 If this shit is bothering you, go get checked out....it's easy fix (for most) and cheap (if you have some insurance)

I think it even made my penis longer too!!

Is that because the old trusty pamala handerson is back to its glory days?

[Yosmithy]

11 minutes ago, 4fun said:

Is that because the old trusty pamala handerson is back to its glory days?

It feels like I'm cheating!

[HoneyBadger]

7 hours ago, 4fun said:

Is that because the old trusty pamala handerson is back to its glory days?

 

10 hours ago, Yosmithy said:

Not to go into the whole medical history thing, but I've been fighting numbs hand, loss of feeling, loss of dexterity  for many years. I stopped riding dirtbikes because of it, and stopped competitive shooting because of it a while ago. Recently one of the reasons I had to get off the mountain bike was also because of this. For the past year, I have been unable to sleep for more than 10 minutes because my hands go numb (both). It had become so debilitating I was ready to get surgery (that I had been holding off for years). I went into the hand specialist 2 weeks ago. It was no surprise that they diagnosed me with Carpal tunnel syndrome and Cubital tunnel syndrome. Instead of surgery that I was earlier told I would need, they just gave me steroid injections in both wrists for the Carpal tunnel and started me on PT for the Cubital part. The very first night after the injections I slept the entire night. In another 2 days I went out and rode my bike for over and hour with no numbness. Fawking amazed!! I'm still working on the Cubital tunnel with PT, but it's improving. 

 If this shit is bothering you, go get checked out....it's easy fix (for most) and cheap (if you have some insurance)

I think it even made my penis longer too!!

I had exactly the same thing. I had the carpal tunnel surgery in both wrists and I've had zero pain or numbness since. Go do the surgery, it only takes 15 mins, they don't even put you all the way under. Not being able to sleep was the worst. Screw the PT, do the surgery.

[AntonioGG]

For those of you that got carpal tunnel surgery, which fingers were numb?  Only thumb index and middle right?  I am positive I have cubital syndrome because I get pinky and ring finger numbness in bed when lying in a certain position (especially when reading), or in the car when putting my arms on the arm rest.  I get all fingers numb when riding so I don't think it's from carpal or cubital, but rather something in the shoulder or neck.  I get instant relief if I take my hand off the handlebar and put it behind my back.  This seems to happen in the first half hour to hour of a race or hard ride at trails like Peddler's or Walnut Creek, but doesn't seem to happen in trails like 1/4, DD, Jester, etc.

[Yosmithy]

generally (very generally) speaking, the carpal tunnel is the radial nerve, which primarily affects your thumb, index fingers (but also you middle finger) and the cubital tunnel is your Ulnar nerve which is primarily you pinky and ring finger.

 

 To HoneyBadger: I probably will end up doing the carpal tunnel surgery now that they have a correct diagnoses after the injections. The Cubital tunnel surgery is much more invasive, and that's actually what I'm working on with the PT.

Still, the relief is fawking amazing, and I'm sooooo kicking myself for waiting this long

[HoneyBadger]

48 minutes ago, AntonioGG said:

For those of you that got carpal tunnel surgery, which fingers were numb?  Only thumb index and middle right?  I am positive I have cubital syndrome because I get pinky and ring finger numbness in bed when lying in a certain position (especially when reading), or in the car when putting my arms on the arm rest.  I get all fingers numb when riding so I don't think it's from carpal or cubital, but rather something in the shoulder or neck.  I get instant relief if I take my hand off the handlebar and put it behind my back.  This seems to happen in the first half hour to hour of a race or hard ride at trails like Peddler's or Walnut Creek, but doesn't seem to happen in trails like 1/4, DD, Jester, etc.

They can do a nerve test and tell you if it's carpal.