RidingAgain Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) ...Single-pivot suspension design making a comeback? Was just checking out Yeti's new offerings and noticed that all their bikes seem to be single-pivot (albeit pretty sophisticated stuff) designs. Which I found interesting, and then did some research on what bikes are using single-pivot designs. Which then led to looking at suspension design on a whole... Which is really what this thread is about. Been some time since I took a look at suspension design, so I thought I'd bring it up... Here's a article on suspension design... https://www.bikeradar.com/features/the-ultimate-guide-to-mountain-bike-rear-suspension-systems/ Edited May 2, 2019 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 Here's an interesting online discussion on the matter... https://www.imtbtrails.com/forum/threads/suspension-performance-single-pivot-vs-everything-else-a-story-of-kinematics-and-acronyms.5429/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcarneytx Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Now if I could just find a modern, pedal-damping shock to fit my 99 VRX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita Handle Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Switch Infinity isn't a single pivot. The main pivot moves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seths Pool Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 seems like those boards with a single motorized wheel also made it into the article with the single pivot bikes. quite the coincidence there 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 Ironically, Yeti has carried a single pivot design in their lineup until very recently. They continued to make the 575 and ASR after developing Switch Infinity. Not a single single pivot today, tho. The Specialized dropped their signature FSR suspension in favor of a single pivot on the Epic recently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, Seths Pool said: seems like those boards with a single motorized wheel also made it into the article with the single pivot bikes. quite the coincidence there 🙄 Gotta let things go my friend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted May 2, 2019 Author Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Anita Handle said: Switch Infinity isn't a single pivot. The main pivot moves. It certainly is more than your traditional single-pivot, but I saw an article where I think it was being called a single-pivot. I'll see if I can find it. Does the pivot move on a bearing, or is it on suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamsloan Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 The main pivot on the switch infinity platform slides on two parallel sliders, thus changing the location of the main pivot as it moves through it's travel. It's similar in function to an incredibly small lower link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita Handle Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 I really just want it to squish good. I remember back in the earlier days of mtbr how dougal and other armchair bike designers would just go off into the weeds arguing about instant pivots and shit. Made me tune out immediately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 The single pivot Epic Evo kills it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seths Pool Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 1 hour ago, RidingAgain said: Gotta let things go my friend. Was just something that made me laugh. Wasn’t trying to be negative 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 i currently own 3 single pivots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 12 hours ago, ATXZJ said: i currently own 3 single pivots. Triple pivot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 one pivot is super-high right now😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider3141 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockshins Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I had a full on single pivot Santa Cruz Superlight because I couldn't afford what all the cool kids were riding (Santa Cruz Blur 2006) and it was a good bike except for when you got into the gnar and started braking. Did not handle that well at all. Upgrading to a Special Ed FSR four bar was a big deal in that I could brake while hitting techy descents. A good rider wouldn't brake in those situations but I lack(ed) those skills. Linkage single pivots have fixed this for the most part, those Kona Process bikes rip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Evil bikes are all single pivot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Chief said: Evil bikes are all single pivot. But are all single pivot bikes evil? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 20 hours ago, rockshins said: I had a full on single pivot Santa Cruz Superlight because I couldn't afford what all the cool kids were riding (Santa Cruz Blur 2006) and it was a good bike except for when you got into the gnar and started braking. Did not handle that well at all. Upgrading to a Special Ed FSR four bar was a big deal in that I could brake while hitting techy descents. A good rider wouldn't brake in those situations but I lack(ed) those skills. Linkage single pivots have fixed this for the most part, those Kona Process bikes rip! Had 2 superlights in the beginning, 26 & 29. Both were waggly AF in the rear to the point I first thought the axle wasnt tight or tire was low. The APP (butcher) was a bit stiffer but not as stiff as the vpp bikes i had. However, the early VPP midstroke wallow was just as bad or worse than any skittish single pivot issues i dealt with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) Single pivot Yeti 575. This bike was a game changer for me when I first moved here. Edited May 4, 2019 by notyal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Animation of how a single pivot can have an advantage when you raise them😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree Magnet Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Single pivot Yeti 575. This bike was a game changer for me when I first moved here. I had that same 575 frame. It was my first real Mtb and I got it off eBay from some lady in Seattle. I loved that frame until it cracked right at that cool machined knuckle. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted May 5, 2019 Author Share Posted May 5, 2019 On 5/4/2019 at 8:15 AM, notyal said: Single pivot Yeti 575. This bike was a game changer for me when I first moved here. Loved mine... But the bottom bracket cracked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockshins Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 On 5/4/2019 at 8:02 AM, ATXZJ said: Had 2 superlights in the beginning, 26 & 29. Both were waggly AF in the rear to the point I first thought the axle wasnt tight or tire was low. The APP (butcher) was a bit stiffer but not as stiff as the vpp bikes i had. However, the early VPP midstroke wallow was just as bad or worse than any skittish single pivot issues i dealt with. I forgot they did a 2-9, yeah the Superlight was a flexy bike I just didn't know any better. Had huge tire marks on the chain and seatstays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.