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1 hour ago, jcarneytx said:

No, just when people continuously, without change, show that they do not care about other people at all.

I’m just guessing...but the way you piss and moan about people who don’t agree with you, might suggest that you don’t care about other people at all as well. 

Just read how Round Rock is going to make masks mandatory for people 10 and older starting July 1st. For 60 days. 10 and older. Any guesses why 9 yrs and below are exempted?

7 minutes ago, notyal said:

You really should watch it. It's only 0:30. It's not about masks. (Although if the gnomes had been collecting underpants to make masks and sell them for profit, it all makes sense now.) Just reminded me of the "plan" to control people by asking them to wear mask.  Here's a 10s clip of just the "plan". 

 

It's good to ask questions. I'm asking all the fear monger YouTubers to explain Step 2 of the government mask control plot. 

On the other hand, I completely understand the mask wearing plan. Step 1: people wear masks in public places. Step 2: less of their spit and snot gets in the air and on surfaces in public places. Step 3: less people get sick and die.

Fair enough. You are correct that there seems to be no solid Step 2. I'm just curious if the plan is Step 1: people wear masks in public places because of corona. Step 2: people focus and argue about Step 1 so they don't see what's going on behind the curtain. Step 3: ???

I know that 5 years ago, everyone would agree that the gov't isn't what they appear to be, and they shouldn't be trusted. These days, seems like the gov't from 5 years ago is Hellbent on getting rid of Trump. Like him or not, it seems odd. I'm asking why. Really has nothing to do with masks.

11 minutes ago, notyal said:

The current "man" certainly does not. And coincidently (or not so much), he is the leader of the anti-masker movement. 

There are people on both sides that will be happy to take advantage of you or profit from a tragic event. So, weighing the BS handed to us from both sides, I think it's far more likely that someone not wearing a mask could spread Covid to me or someone I love vs. somehow by wearing a mask you are succumbing to some sort of government control. 

It reminds me of the underpants gnomes from Southpark. Step 1: make everyone wear a mask. Step 2: _____________ Step 3: Government control.

 

Now we're getting somewhere. (I didn't watch your video BTW) Why doesn't he wear a mask? Is he trying to kill us all? Maybe he knows something we don't know? And, I've never shamed anyone for wearing a mask. Succumbing to gov't control? Well, yes. But I'm simply curious as to what's really going on. I'd like for everyone to be curious as well.

2 minutes ago, notyal said:

You're right. I've been concerned with personal hygiene my whole life like a fucking sheep. What a dumbass I've been. While I was washing my hands in public restrooms, I bet the man was plotting against me the whole time.

My bad. The man is trustworthy. I'm sure he has your best interests in mind.

1 minute ago, The Tip said:

"Looks like people are complying with the wear a mask edict.  Let's open more things and get the economy back to normal." 

Or, it could be, "Looks like people are complying with the wear a mask edict. Let's make a COVID FREE CAMP."

A little extreme, I know. But, as long as you're focused on the magician's right hand, you won't notice him stealing your wallet with his left.

12 minutes ago, notyal said:

Same tired arguments from the anti-makers. 

"Other things kill people, too"

"Other issues completely unrelated to Covid are happening, but mask don't help that"

Who gives a shit? That is complete smoke and mirror distraction bullshit you are falling for. 

The issue at hand: A thin piece of fabric worn in front of your mouth and nose can help reduce the spread of a very infectious disease that is affecting the entire world. It's just like washing your hands, coughing/sneezing into your sleeve, or not licking all the apples at HEB. Doing small things for the health of the entire community.

 

That's right. Stay in line. Focus on what's directly in front of you. Don't ask questions.

15 minutes ago, quixoft said:

I agree with this but why do we all of sudden care just now? The flu survival rate is ALMOST 100% and tens of thousands die every year in the US from the flu but we've never taken these actions during flu seasons. Why didn't we shut down the economy or force masks when flu deaths hit 60,000 in a bad year like 2017-18? Surely we could have saved many of those loved ones if we forced stay at home orders and masks, right? All we had to do is sacrifice some comfort, good looks, and jobs. Why didn't we do it?

I've looked back through the threads and I've never seen any of you arguing for masks, distancing or saving others back in the 2017-18 flu where the CDC estimates 61,000 deaths. Was 60,000 deaths just not enough for y'all to care about or change your habits? Do we only care when deaths pass 100K?  

/sarcasm Personally, I'm fine with 37,873 deaths. But once we hit 37,874, I demand shut downs and masks. What are y'alls numbers? /sarcasm

2017-18 are not election years. Well, 2018 was. But, not for President

15 minutes ago, ATXZJ said:

This∆

People aren't in the streets because life is good in the usa. Quite the opposite.

The rent/mortgage deferments end this month,  and from what I understand so does the disaster relief funding. Oh and there's the people & businesses like me who have to pay every tax year and that's comng up too.

And there's a pandemic burning out of control in my state. #winning

Sounds to me like the fits gonna hit the shan whether we have a virus or not. But keep your mask on. That'll help people feed their kids.

22 minutes ago, RidingAgain said:

Wait until the economic crisis starts to roll... Strange will take on a whole new look.

It's all part of the process

21 minutes ago, Tree Magnet said:

I think that we’re arguing precisely because the survival rate is ALMOST 100%. It’s that few percent that represent people that one side cares deeply enough about that they will sacrifice comfort and their good looks to protect. The other side of that argument, they will happily sacrifice that percent on the altar of freedom.

By the way, this is OUR country and we’re all lucky enough to be here so we can have these dissenting opinions and discuss them in the open like this.


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Fixed it. Good call.

Strangest stuff I've seen.....

People are rioting, setting fire to small businesses, taking over areas of cities, trying to get rid of police, tearing down monuments (no matter what they stood for), beating the crap out of people on the street for no reason, pulling people out of their cars to beat them too..... All in our own country.

And we're arguing about masks. To prevent a disease with an almost 100% survival rate.

Strange indeed.

13 hours ago, notyal said:

I've asked this several times now in several ways and have never gotten a clear answer. Anti-maskers, what do you have to gain by not wearing one? Why fight it so hard? Is it purely a politically fueled show of defiance? Are you afraid your fellow anti-maskers will see you and make fun of you?

Again, I can’t answer for everybody. But, I live and work in a rural part of Williamson county. I spend a majority of my time in my office with minimal contact with people. My wife has similar contact at her work. I’m what you would classify an anti-social person. I don’t like hanging with drama and putting up with their BS. I don’t go tubing or frequent bars. I order HEB online and a masked person drops my stuff in the back of my car. My day to day activities are now labeled “social distancing”. Therefore, I don’t feel I need to wear a mask. So I’m not going to. 
 

Plus, there’s political movement behind the smokescreen. I’m more concerned with that than I am with a cough. 

7 hours ago, mack_turtle said:

I see George Soros and Bill Gates have paid off the governor of Texas to be a part of their plan to take over the world. there is nothing stopping them now, so we might as well take the Mark of the Beast.

I didn’t see this earlier. I see you’ve done some research. I had a feeling you weren’t as dismissive as you try to appear. 

3 hours ago, AustinBike said:

Doctor just called. Outpatient surgery is still allowed. Doesn't help my wife but mine is back on for Tuesday morning. It could all blow up again.

Abbott is a clown, this will not end well for Texas.

Glad to hear that us.....bonewipes?,(Or was it fuckers?) didn’t mess up your outpatient surgery. Honestly. 

9 hours ago, The Tip said:

I have a question for the non-mask wearers; why do you hate medical workers?   

The news is full of health care personnel BEGGING for people to wear masks. They know it will help. And very surprisingly, there is no politically identifying  "D" or "R" next to their names.

I can’t speak for all non-mask wearers, but I personally don’t hate medical workers. My sister and her daughter both work at a hospital in San Antone. They’re my barometer as to how bad we should freak out. So far, cases have increased. But, the survival rate remains the same. So, there’s that. 
As far as the we vs. me mentality: from my side of the fence, there’s plenty of people who refuse to wear masks. Maybe the non mask wearers are the we, and you few masked ones are the me. You want everyone (we) to wear a mask to protect you (me). It’s all about how you look at it. 

43 minutes ago, Tree Magnet said:

Besides the fact that the little sections of rock will rut, it will kill your drivetrain in 200’ with that sticky mud and rocks.


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I 2nd this. This is where I learned to not ride wet trails. Before I was properly educated.

4 minutes ago, mack_turtle said:

I am sure there's a parallel involving one Dwight Schrute, but the Steamed Hams bit is absolutely timeless.

I’ll check it out!

1 hour ago, mack_turtle said:

I see you're new to this cultural phenomenon called The Simpsons. keep up! Do I need to LMGTFY?

Just did! Sorry. I never watched the simpsons. Had it been an office reference, ida got it! Lol!

19 minutes ago, mack_turtle said:

I see the deniers have gone full Steamed Hams to save face.

Not sure what Steamed Hams is. That’s a new one on me. 

Population of earth: 

c7,800,000,000

Average deaths from auto accidents - annually:

(worldwide)

c1,350,000

Average deaths from falls - annually:

(worldwide)

c646,000

Average deaths from obesity 

(worldwide)

c2.8 million

Unemployed due to Covid-19 (USA):

c30,300,000

Total confirmed Covid-19 deaths:

(worldwide)

c472,856

Back on topic:

Google any three digit number followed by “new cases”. You’ll find an article about that many new cases somewhere in the world. Seems strange. 

34 minutes ago, notyal said:

I wouldn't like answers that prove my concepts absurd either.

I feel like he actually answered my question. Instead of repeating the same thing. You're not going to change my mind. I'm not going to change yours.

36 minutes ago, notyal said:

So the mask says "I can block 95% of your germs from entering the local environment, thus drastically reducing the spread of disease" and you say "Oh yeah, but what's in it for me"?? This is the selfish attitude that the guilt comes from.

Do you cover your mouth when you cough or sneeze? Of course you do. This common courtesy has been ingrained in us all since childhood. It's effective at limiting germs from being spread. It hasn't been politicized. It's just generally accepted as the right thing to do. But do you cover your mouth when I cough or sneeze to protect yourself? Do hands and sleeves only work one way? Wearing a mask is the same concept. Block it at the source.

Let's do a little thought experiment. We are standing 3ft apart. I have COVID, and I'm about to sneeze. Which of these options does common sense tell you is going to give you the best chance of not contracting the virus? You can:

A) Put a mask on me

B) Put a mask on yourself

C) Neither of us get a mask

D) Both get masks

Let me clarify...I don't feel guilty. This all boils down to what I think I need to do to protect me, and what YOU think I should do to protect YOU.

It has been politicized.

And I liked AntonioGG's answer better.

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