TAF 332 Posted November 9, 2020 @Albert - I wonder if we shouldn't add a separate forum for gravel posts -- the purist in me thinks they should not be bundled in with the roadie posts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mack_turtle 1,529 Posted November 9, 2020 rename the Roadie forum "unpaved" or something like that. depending on how you look at it, "gravel bikes" are mostly road bikes for unpaved roads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAF 332 Posted November 9, 2020 7 hours ago, mack_turtle said: rename the Roadie forum "unpaved" or something like that. depending on how you look at it, "gravel bikes" are mostly road bikes for unpaved roads. Actually, they are not - gravel bikes, until recently, were typically re-purposed cyclocross bikes, which have the wider tire clearances useful for mud, and definitely no caliper brakes. My experience on (many) gravel rides and events, is that it's where roadies and mountain bikers meet. So I stand by my argument - or indeed, by your suggestion - we need an Unpaved forum! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mack_turtle 1,529 Posted November 10, 2020 "Unpaved" might not be the right term if we want to discuss all road-riding fun. I still think roadies is appropriate if the point is to discuss riding stuff that is not singletrack. "gravel" is such a vague thing and a moving target. based on what I've read about it because historically (when I was too young to know or care at all), gravel grinding is just what roadies did when they didn't have access to pavement. bikes are getting more specialized for gravel roads but most of them are still road bikes at heart. the line is being blurred every day though. in the end, it handles like a road bike and has been adapted for unpaved surfaces. cyclocross bikes became popular because the market was slow to bring a bike that handles well on the road but has room for big tires. however, I don't want to get caught up in the bikes because it's the riding that matters. so how do we section off a segment of discussion about riding that's not really road riding but not mountain biking? I'd just stick that kind of discussion in the roadie forum and not waste another thought on it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheX 1,675 Posted November 10, 2020 Roadie Forum - Paved and Unpaved Fits well. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAF 332 Posted November 12, 2020 I'll just stick to the various FB groups which thankfully are gravel-specific. I refuse to discuss gravel riding in a roadie forum! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry 1,010 Posted November 12, 2020 A man has to stick to his principles! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAF 332 Posted November 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Barry said: A man has to stick to his principles! Exactly! And if you've ever seen a peloton of road riders, heads down, tires 6 inches apart, hit the sand on Keyserville Rd and perform a group yard sale wipeout, then you will know what I am talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheX 1,675 Posted November 12, 2020 If you removed the gravel posts, the roadie forum would be empty. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TAF 332 Posted November 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, TheX said: If you removed the gravel posts, the roadie forum would be empty. Exactly! Let's just rename it. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheX 1,675 Posted November 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, TAF said: Exactly! Let's just rename it. I'm all for that!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AntonioGG 1,496 Posted November 12, 2020 Roadiephobics. The more you complain the more I think you’re a closeted roadie. all riding is cool. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheX 1,675 Posted November 12, 2020 I love road riding, except for the road part. No thanks to riding with cars. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notyal 1,283 Posted November 12, 2020 12 hours ago, TheX said: If you removed the gravel posts, the roadie forum would be empty. Move all forums to the MTB forum and rename it "forum". It's not like this forum gets an overwhelming amount of posts that need to be filtered down to a specific surface. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites