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My new bike came with Stan's. Everything else I have has Orange Seal. So I got a puncture on the new bike and the Stan's worked. Quickly. But then the next ride that same puncture came open again. It sealed up again but that reopening thing has never happened to me with Orange Seal. Based on my very limited experiences I will now say that Stan's works quickly and well, but doesn't stay. Orange Seal takes a little more time/losing air to work, but will last the duration of the tire.

$473.99 at Home Depot. Looks like the same thing, https://www.homedepot.com/p/Wilton-5-5-in-855M-Mechanics-Pro-Vise-28811/306368153

Of course. It's a business decision for bike shops to sponsor things. But I was taken aback yesterday when, due to a couple of different things, the porta potty ended up costing them $1,400. Guess what we are NOT going to have this next week? lol And wait until you see the swag table next week. There is a lot of stuff to give away in the ticket drawing. 2022 SATN SOCIAL, Saturday, June 11th, 8 am

The rain disrupted things. But there still was riding and the after party was great fun. BUT...it will happen again this coming Saturday, June 11. Same bat time, same bat station. Bless ATX Bikes for being behind this.

It's probably been said. Probably by me at least me three times! But it can't be said enough. It was really amazing what it did for my shoulder after suffering for six months or so. Immediate results. Not totally cured, but huge progress made that very day.

Tried it a different way. Can y'all see it?

No registry. Show up before 8 am and be ready for wheels down at 8:10. Be back 8 hours later. Show Strava to ticket issuers. Speaking of swag for the raffle, the Santa Cruz rep just this week donated ten Giro helmets. There are lots and lots of smaller things too. The picture above of the shirt still shows for me but here it is again. $20 Saturday. cheap enough

LOL! Well then, how about putting this out there AND a pre-ride talk? My concern is how to disseminate this information to people starting at different times during the day.

I would like your input please. I am going to put the following out on the internet. It's in lieu of a pre ride long winded speech. Does it make sense and convey everything that needs to be conveyed? Also, who of you are going to attend and what are you going to attempt to do? How many of the four segments? Anyway, here's what I have right now: SATN SOCIAL 2022 The SATN SOCIAL’s purpose is to share the joy of The South Austin Trail Network. Not only the 120 miles of single track, but also the fantastic SATN community of mountain bikers. Please give a big thank you to our sponsor, ATX BIKES, located right in the center of the SATN universe. Next time you go buy something there, tell them it’s because they sponsored the SOCIAL. Hopefully we can trick them into continuing to do this thing! We also want to thank Wiley Mosely from GIANT Bikes for providing our food and the Austin Beerworks beer. Big thanks to Darren Poole from SHIMANO for lots of the great drawing prizes. Thank you to ATHLETIC Brewing for their generous donation of tasty non-alcoholic brews. Thank you to Damon Landry from Signs Express for his design work on the cool SOCIAL jerseys. Thanks to Dale Daughertry for creating a SATN SOCIAL page on the MTBATX.com website Huge thanks to the SATN SMOOTH CREW. Identify them by the special “respect the trail” logo on their shirt sleeves. Thank them for working so hard getting the trails in perfect shape for this event. Realize that no government entity does anything for any of our single track trails. It’s all good citizen volunteers that do it. Everyone that rides them should feel obligated to give something back at some point. If nothing more than to purposely “ride the sides'' every now and then to knock back encroaching vegetation. (lecture over!) WARNING! Mountain Biking is inherently dangerous! There are things that can kill you out here. Be ever diligent in looking out for your own safety. There are four 17 mile-ish segments. The fastest riders can do them in just over 1 ½ hours. The 8 am start will allow these strong riders to do all 67 miles. Do the math on how many segments you can complete. You can start any time (after 8 am) but you must be back by 4 pm to be eligible for the drawings. There are multiple ways to do this event. Here are some examples: Start at 8 am. Do as many as you can. Hang out for the rest of the day. Start at 8 am with the intent of only doing one then going home to rest then come back at 3:30 for the festivities. Start at 11 am to do two segments to finish up at 3:30-ish. Start at 1:30, ride 17 miles, finish just before 4 pm, start enjoying the refreshments. Come at any time during the day. If you are unsure how to follow the segments on Strava or Trailforks, look for someone that does, so you can follow them. Or if you know how to, declare in the parking lot something like, “I’m going to attempt the south and north at 9 mph average.” Gather a group and go! Earn a raffle ticket for each segment completed. Get a bonus ticket for completing all four. Get two additional tickets if you do all four perfectly. Proven by your Strava ride. This is as much an orienteering challenge as it is a riding one. The biggest rule for the event is…to have fun!

Am I the one that is going to have to say this? PLEASE do NOT carry anti tank weapons onto our trails. Thank you.

Another great success! Thanks Barry for leading the fast group. Y'all really did do almost all of it. And by the way, it didn't rain a drop Saturday night. It blew like crazy again though so probably smart move.

Are we not educated now? I could post up on the Dana Peak Facebook page to recruit some folks though if you think it would help. They were very proud of their place and were happy to lead

The shirts came in and I will be selling them at Crank and Dranks, starting tonight. $15 (just trying to break even). They came out really nicely. Get them while you can!

I'm thinking 9 am. Early enough to beat the heat, but late enough for folks just coming for the day to make it out.

Yes, it's a thang still. Cold showers. Cold beer. Easy I have an extra site still booked if anyone wants an RV spot.

But does the rain curse happen with a gravel or road bike?

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Sections of the greenbelt? Which? I was actually going to use the greenbelt as example of the lack of power that "they" have to close a trail system down. As we all know there is but one trail that is sanctioned there. Probably represents about 20% of the system. The other 80% blowing and going. I'm not advocating banditry, just pointing out a fact. And yes, the BCCP sucks. They hate people. But they don't control even close to all the trails. City Park is not a very good example of ebikes being the reason it will ever be shut down. Ya know, motorcycles and all. But they sure try, don't they? I laughed when I read an article from one of their henchmen that had a picture of "out of control erosion" at City Park. It was a small ledge literally 4" tall. Ridiculous. BUT, unsuccessful in their efforts. I get the concern. But even if a land owner did close a trail because of this, I think it could be reversed. Let's take Maxwell Slaughter Creek trail for example. "Too many ebikes are using this, we are closing it to all use." This would be like the "no dogs" problem that has been addressed. "We will close this if we see dogs out here." The community has been engaged to educate and inform the dog people that they are not welcomed. Success so far. So the mountain bike community would tell the Water Quality Protection folks that we will self police and educate to the fact that ebikes are absolutely forbidden on this trail. They would say, okay, we'll try it again.

"They" are not going to suddenly shut down every trail to mountain biking because of ebikes being "caught" on a trail somewhere. Let's start giving the "we'll lose access" argument more credence if and when it actually occurs on a single trail. And it probably won't. What a land owner would do is just step up the enforcement of their no ebike policy. But if it does happen then it can be said, "They shut down xyz trail because of this. So our concerns are valid."

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I thought I would start a new thread to avoid any confusion. 67 total miles, 100K of it sweet single track. (is it okay to mix miles and kilometers in one sentence?) Four different routes of 17 miles each, that start and stop at our sponsor, ATX Bikes. How many routes can you do in eight hours? MTBATX site has all of the four routes on Strava and TrailForks. Use your favorite: https://www.mtbatx.com/satnsocial2022?fbclid=IwAR1o5ptAwFwOpuiAsjGJ-rsU7CYc8x8-BnUTG2NoXt2ed-oe-BkFzFBqNL8 There's an event up on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/323834089619972/?ref=newsfeed There will be tee shirts. $15 before the event, $20 day of and afterwards. We are just trying to break even on them. These are the "cool technology" shirts that cost $19 on Amazon. And those don't have amazing logos on them! Did I mention that it's free. Including the entry, beer, food, and swag drawing?

It was confusing using the original thread so I thought I should start one for this year's event. May 20- 22, 2022 That's Friday through Sunday. It was a great fun the last time. That's why it got booked up very quickly when it was decided to do this. If you are interested in tent camping, say something, and certainly one of the RV reserved spot people will offer you space on their spot.. There is plenty of room on these sites. if you are interested in an RV space, say something, as some extra back up spaces have been reserved just for you. I know I have an extra one just waiting for someone to claim. And of course you can just make a day of it. Come out to ride then stay for the campfire comradery.

I bought a Santa Cruz Heckler a couple of weeks ago. Here are my reasons for doing so: -I've wanted to get one for my wife so that we can ride together at my speed with me on my Giant Trance Pro. She doesn't want one. So my devious plan is to have her ride this one to realize how much fun it is so that she'll let me get her one. BUT the reality is that me riding this one TURNED OFF accomplishes the same goal. So instead of speeding her up, it slows me down. But not by much. Last week at Crank and Drank I took off and forgot to turn it on. I was two miles into the ride before I realized it. This should be an example to people that are reluctant to buy one because, "Yeah, but then you run out of battery and you have to ride the huge thing home." Ha! This is not an impossible task. This is a fun mountain bike turned off. -It acts as a life preserver. On my few rides so far I have had it on the lowest possible setting. It is not much different than riding with it turned off. It barely offsets the added 20 pounds of the bike. BUT I know the power is there if I need it. A friend, that's even older than me (yes, I know, hard to believe) with one told me about this. On a Crank and Drank once he bonked "out there" before he got his ebike. He was scared about getting back. No more. -I've been "having" to ride the four routes for the SATN SOCIAL to get good Strava routes in the bag to post up. I didn't really feel like riding one day but I knew that the bike would "save" me if needed. Turns out I never used more than the minimum, but the comfort of knowing the reserve was there was enough to get me out. I got a ride in whereas before I would not have. -This will allow me to go on group rides that I wouldn't be so comfortable with before. I went out to Lajitas with a group last month. They were very accommodating with me. They would ride a segment and then wait at the next intersection for me. That was very nice but I don't want to feel like a burden. Nor am I willing to give up the fun and camaraderie of participating in that type of activity yet. I told the guys at ATX Bikes, where I bought this, that everyone gave me shit about getting one at the Crank and Drank last week. Even though about 15 people gave it a spin, and laughed out loud when they did, of course. The bike guy said, "yes, but they'll all have one eventually." I think that is mostly true and this debate about ebikes yes or no will be looked on in the future as, "why did we even fight that?" I'm sure the hardcore skiers in the past looked at chair lifts with disdain. "Pussies. How can they enjoy the skiing experience if they don't earn it with the hike up the hill?" "This will ruin skiing. The mountain will be full of people now." In reality they just built more ski areas. A win. So there you have it. You know what side of the debate I'm on now! But saying all that I doubt it will be my primary bike. Yet. ps, On my first battery charge, I went 150 miles before it died. And that included the test ride session where everyone used a lot of battery because they had it set to Boost. lol. I personally have yet to use it on Boost power. I can't imagine ever using it.

Facebook event page: https://www.facebook.com/events/323834089619972/?ref=newsfeed MTBATX website's SATN SOCIAL page that has all three routes: https://www.mtbatx.com/satnsocial2022