WhoAmI Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Check it out! D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTheCatLady Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Wow, "Church Hill" really *was* called "Hill of Despair". -cls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I'm kind of curious how this differs from the current trails. Obviously there's now a concrete highway through the park and several trail changes as a result of that. What else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBaron Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Not much really. A few names are different and its missing the add-ons due to the loss of trail from encroachment by the concrete path. -CJB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAmI Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, Albert said: I'm kind of curious how this differs from the current trails. Obviously there's now a concrete highway through the park and several trail changes as a result of that. What else? Here's a rough update excluding the end of Inner Log Loop. D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Those are the names I "grew" up knowing the trails by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Kind of remarkable that so little has changed since 2002. I was aware of all the changes due to the arrival of the concrete path, but beyond that not very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The trail did not change as much from the concrete path, but the "typical route" did. Most people just rode the standard race loop so they were typically going in the same direction because of habit. The path changed some of that, but now most people ride a new typical route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 What is the standard race loop? I know signs were put in at some point as a "suggested route", is that the new typical route you are describing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I wish there were more blue square signs for us noobs. I try to follow that route, but when I upload my GPS data I haven't made the right choices. I was away from wc for 9 or 10 years and it changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 There are definitely signs missing at this point. Would be nice to see them replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Albert said: There are definitely signs missing at this point. Would be nice to see them replaced. Funny you should mention that. ARR started on that before school let out. The Carsonite posts started being destroyed. We decided to wait until school was back in session before we replaced them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, cxagent said: Funny you should mention that. ARR started on that before school let out. The Carsonite posts started being destroyed. We decided to wait until school was back in session before we replaced them. What the hell is wrong with people? Maybe the City of Austin can install those larger metal posts, cemented into the ground, as they've installed all over Barton Creek Greenbelt. Those Carsonite signs are getting vandalized at Brushy Creek as well. It seems Carsonite signs are ripe for abuse on high-traffic trails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Has anybody seen the official Walnut Creek Map? You might look at ftp://ftp.austintexas.gov/GIS-Data/PARD/Allison/WalnutCreekMetro/WalnutCreekMetroPark_MainKiosk3_Copy.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Albert said: What the hell is wrong with people? Maybe the City of Austin can install those larger metal posts, cemented into the ground, as they've installed all over Barton Creek Greenbelt. Those Carsonite signs are getting vandalized at Brushy Creek as well. You don't want to know what the cost of those sign posts are. And somebody (me) keeps having to clean the graffiti of of them. Cleaning graffiti is almost as bad as trying to delete bot posts as fast as they come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I agree the graffiti is bad, although most of the signs I saw yesterday at BCGB are fine. The closer a sign is to a trailhead, the more likely it will get vandalized, it seems. At least the signs would still be there, though, unlike the Carsonite signs that are pretty easy to remove and/or destroy. I'm sure the metal signs they installed at BCGB were pretty damn expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Albert said: I agree the graffiti is bad, although most of the signs I saw yesterday at BCGB are fine. The closer a sign is to a trailhead, the more likely it will get vandalized, it seems. At least the signs would still be there, though, unlike the Carsonite signs that are pretty easy to remove and/or destroy. I'm sure the metal signs they installed at BCGB were pretty damn expensive. And two of those big steel sign posts cemented into the ground have been "removed / stolen". At least that is all I know about. And Hill Country Conservancy (Violet Crown Trail folks) paid for ALL of the signs on BCGB. Even the ones past where the VCT turn off the main trail. When you make something "idiot proof" - they come up with a better idiot. Edited August 24, 2018 by cxagent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, cxagent said: And two of those big steel sign posts cemented into the ground have been "removed / stolen". At least that is all I know about. And Hill Country Conservancy (Violet Crown Trail folks) paid for ALL of the signs on BCGB. Even the ones past where the VCT turn off the main trail. When you make something "idiot proof" - they come up with a better idiot. I'm impressed that two of those steel posts have been stolen. I think they are just bolted into the cement footer? I guess with the right tools, those might not be so hard to remove. Interesting that Hill Country Conservancy paid for the signs. Having ridden Sweet 16 yesterday, there are an asston of those signs on that section of trail. Yeah, you'll never stop the idiots, but you can make it harder for more casual destructions. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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