4fun Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 9 hours ago, WhoAmI said: They are not. Scroll down to Trails. I'm glad to see Wilco is using new PC terminalogy for people that are legal to have handicapped parking plates๐ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 prohibiting e-mtbs on trails? who do we think is going to enforce that?ย ๐ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, mack_turtle said: who do we think is going to enforce that? Here's a candidate - remember her? Believe she may still be looking for a job. ย Lake Georgetown park worker fired following viral video of her screaming at driver | kvue.com 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 "Mike! Miiiiiiike! He's riding an e-bike! call the police!" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 On 10/18/2021 at 10:19 AM, olddbrider said: I know ebikes are still not allowed on federal land, but I feel like "vast majority" is a stretch - especially in a state like TX where many of the trails are on private property. Here's a fun test: 1. Go to trail forks and look up trails with the activity "MTB" 2. Change the activity to "e-Bike" Observe the difference. One has a dozen or two trails, one has none. That is a pretty good definition of "vast majority". No city parks. No state parks. We have no nearby national parks. It would only be private property and while you claim there are many trails on private property, a.) how many miles of public vs. private are there, and b.) how often do people ride on public vs. private? I ride public trails 3-4 times a week and ride on private property only every 2-3 months or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olddbrider Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 5 hours ago, AustinBike said: I ride public trails 3-4 times a week and ride on private property only every 2-3 months or so. ย 6 hours ago, AustinBike said: Here's a fun test: 1. Go to trail forks and look up trails with the activity "MTB" 2. Change the activity to "e-Bike" Observe the difference. One has a dozen or two trails, one has none. That is a pretty good definition of "vast majority". .... I ride public trails 3-4 times a week and ride on private property only every 2-3 months or so. To your first point, I think it depends greatly on where you look. If you zoom in on Burnet or Boerne I'm guessing you might find more miles of trail open to ebikes. Sure, if you focus on Austin you won't see much because the trail networks are primarily located in city/county parks. I don't ride as much as you, but mine would be closer to a 50/50 split between public and private trails. I typically do a mid-week ride in town on public trails (Brushy, Ninja, Walnut, Lakeway) and a weekend ride on private trails (Spider, RPR, Flat Creek, Flat Rock, etc.). My riding these days is less about miles and more about smiles. Riding downhill makes me happy, so I'd rather do more of that. That's why I'm at Spider just about every other weekend. At places without a lift, an ebike would give me the opportunity to double the number of laps on any given day. Again, I don't have one. But I see their place and I am definitely not ruling out the possibility of owning one in the future. I resisted dropper posts for a long time. Hopefully, I've learned from that experience... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4fun Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I doubt I will ever own an e-bike, but if I do this will be my set up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4fun Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Just now, 4fun said: I doubt I will ever own an e-bike, but if I do this will be my set up! I would wear a helmet, I'm not a complete redneck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanerpvt Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I watch Jared Graves on an ebike and I think, who am i to judgeโฆโฆ. Cheers, Shaner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Shanerpvt said: and I think, who am i to judgeโฆโฆ. ย Sorry, you're not doing the internet right. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 Here in Santa Fe, saw several people commuting on e-bikes in the 40F temperatures.ย There is totally a use case for e-bikes, commuting and urban usage for running errands are high in my mind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 11 hours ago, Shanerpvt said: I watch Jared Graves on an ebike and I think, who am i to judgeโฆโฆ. Cheers, Shaner True but he's sponsored by yeti , who recently released an e-bike. I take that kind of stuff about as seriously as I do pro riders drinking energy drinks.ย 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, ATXZJ said: True but he's sponsored by yeti , who recently released an e-bike. I take that kind of stuff about as seriously as I do pro riders drinking energy drinks.ย What!? Is my whole life a lie?? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanerpvt Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, ATXZJ said: True but he's sponsored by yeti , who recently released an e-bike. I take that kind of stuff about as seriously as I do pro riders drinking energy drinks.ย Iโm pretty sure at this point that dude can ride whatever he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Shanerpvt said: Iโm pretty sure at this point that dude can ride whatever he wants. Fair enough but know, I'm not arguing with you about Jared graves. I don't care about Jared Graves. He's a spokesperson for a company, and is promoting their products. That has no influence on my decision making of whether or not to buy an e-bike, or anything else. When I'm shit and can't ride a regular bike, I'll consider an e-bike. But again, where exactly in flatlandia are these things necessary? Edited October 21, 2021 by ATXZJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, ATXZJ said: When I'm shit and can't ride a regular bike, I'll consider an e-bike. But again, where exactly in flatlandia are these things necessary? You can make the same argument for suspension, gears, etc., etc. Even if you are a 21 y/o in the peak of your athletic performance and have more fun riding an eMTB than a regular one, I say, go have fun young man. Ride the bike that you have the most fun riding. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I'm 48 ย Having lived in the west where there's open travel, I can totally see a place for ebikes and Motos. Here, notsomuch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, notyal said: You can make the same argument for suspension, gears, etc., etc. Even if you are a 21 y/o in the peak of your athletic performance and have more fun riding an eMTB than a regular one, I say, go have fun young man. Ride the bike that you have the most fun riding. *mojo mode* still, I would want to ask such a young man, "why are you such a wussy? ride a real bike, you entitled, participation trophy-expecting little bitch." Edited October 21, 2021 by mack_turtle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, mack_turtle said: *mojo mode* still, I would want to ask such a young man, "why are you such a wussy? ride a real bike, you entitled, participation trophy-expecting little bitch." Then, I would post 20 extreme close-up pictures of anuses. Man, MoJo was wild.ย 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanerpvt Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 44 minutes ago, ATXZJ said: Having lived in the west where there's open travel, I can totally see a place for ebikes and Motos. Here, notsomuch Im with you 100 on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tip Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, notyal said: You can make the same argument for suspension, gears, etc., etc. Even if you are a 21 y/o in the peak of your athletic performance and have more fun riding an eMTB than a regular one, I say, go have fun young man. Ride the bike that you have the most fun riding. Exactly. You pussy whippersnappers with your gears, and suspension, and fancy "new-matic" tires! When I was young we rode bikes with no gears. We didn't even have chains. And we had wooden wheels. Most of those weren't even really round! We just pushed ourselves around with our feet, with our wheels going thump thump, all the time the iron seat jackhammering our ass...AND WE LOVED IT!ย ย Y'all should just use helicopters to get around the trails if you don't like real biking. Edited October 21, 2021 by The Tip 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Tip said: Y'all should just use helicopters to get around the trails if you don't like real biking. no doubt, if self-riding bikes that never fall over and clear everything were available, a few people, including able-bodied young people, would buy them. this generation of people who have everything handed to them without even getting a college degreeโyou know, the boomersโdon't believe in hard work and sacrifice toward goals. they want bikes that ride for them! who are accusing of using gears? JK Edited October 21, 2021 by mack_turtle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) In the end, the discussion of e-bikes not a matter of moral dick measuring for me. If you're able bodied and want one, fine.ย Where I get frustrated was how they were originally marketed vs what's happening now. It's obvious that the industry had a direction they wanted to take bikes, and this is it. Trails/shared use be damned. ย I can imagine the mark-up is also pretty good, comparatively. Edited October 21, 2021 by ATXZJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ATXZJ said: In the end, the discussion of e-bikes not a matter of moral dick measuring for me. If you're able bodied and want one, fine.ย Where I get frustrated was how they were originally marketed vs what's happening now. It's obvious that the industry had a direction they wanted to take bikes, and this is it. I can imagine the mark-up is also pretty good, comparatively. what they said: "these are bikes for getting up mountains and to help people with physical limitations ride places they could never ride before." what they meant: "these bikes are for brap bros who don't give a shit about trail etiquette, but we'll gladly take their money." I'm OK with being a crotchety retrogrouch about this. I can't do anything to stop it, but I can point out that it's absurd. Edited October 21, 2021 by mack_turtle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tip Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, mack_turtle said: what they meant: "these bikes are for brap bros who don't give a shit about trail etiquette, but we'll gladly take their money." Your post is true, but the brap bros you speak of don't need an ebike to be dicks about trail etiquette. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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