cxagent Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, TheX said: Sounds like Mr. JB is damn lucky to have such an awesome riding partner. Yes - the whole "Bug" family is a lot cooler than they sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Bug Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Gosh, thanks y'all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 19 hours ago, cxagent said: How about the tour where the 300 lb rider bonks on the 10 mile day. Nobody wants to tow him and his bike up any of the climbs. MTBF for some of these kind of riders is less than an hour. I think the answer to the bonked rider and the dead ebike and the dead pedal bike is the same - sag wagons. I think sag wagons are required on any of these kind of tours. Molly once told me "there's no f------ sag wagon" about 80 miles into our 100 mile SS ride. I asked her to leave me for dead at that point on the SWCT in the 95F+ heat. I miss riding with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted February 23, 2020 Author Share Posted February 23, 2020 19 hours ago, cxagent said: How about the tour where the 300 lb rider bonks on the 10 mile day. Nobody wants to tow him and his bike up any of the climbs. MTBF for some of these kind of riders is less than an hour. Depends on what kind of components they have on their bike 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapee Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 MTBF is arguably the same for humans+current gen equipment. I think L10 is remarkably different. Infant mortality is probably different too. Just a guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 7 hours ago, AustinBike said: Molly once told me "there's no f------ sag wagon" about 80 miles into our 100 mile SS ride. I asked her to leave me for dead at that point on the SWCT in the 95F+ heat. I miss riding with her. Nothing like that motivational speech to get you back on your bike and moving. Personally I like the approach of "Until you are dead - get back on your bike. You can rest when you really are dead." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Escapee said: MTBF is arguably the same for humans+current gen equipment. I think L10 is remarkably different. Infant mortality is probably different too. Just a guess. My experience is that some humans have an MTBF that is MUCH shorter than I want to ride. I don't ride with those humans very often. They generally don't like riding with me either. And my bike will make many many many of my length rides before any failure. Of course - YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapee Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 L10, Lifetime. Not random, unexpected failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 https://reliabilityanalyticstoolkit.appspot.com/L10_to_mtbf_conversion I think people are the "random, unexpected failures". Especially those people who don't ride much but want to do a point-to-point riding tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapee Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Seth steps off a curb in the parking lot and breaks a frame. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Uber with an "e"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Bug Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I see lots of these folks out and about, especially in Central Austin, closer to the UT Campus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 If my JOB was to ride a bicycle, you bet it would have a motor. As I understand it, the days of pedicabbers using full manual bikes are long-gone as well. They all have motors. On that note, I know someone who works for Rad Power Bikes, and they are hiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapee Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 They're all over the centrum in Leuven BE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 42 minutes ago, mack_turtle said: If my JOB was to ride a bicycle, you bet it would have a motor. As I understand it, the days of pedicabbers using full manual bikes are long-gone as well. They all have motors. On that note, I know someone who works for Rad Power Bikes, and they are hiring. I would think that pedicabs would choose manual instead of electric because there are probably bigger tips when they see you huffing and puffing. If you are just cruising along like a scooter I bet the tip ratio drops considerably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted February 26, 2020 Author Share Posted February 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, Escapee said: They're all over the centrum in Leuven BE. Yeah, I saw one at Walnut last night. Told that guy that he shouldn't be using an electric motor, he claimed he needed it to pull a log 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escapee Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, AustinBike said: Yeah, I saw one at Walnut last night. Told that guy that he shouldn't be using an electric motor, he claimed he needed it to pull a log 😉 What a jackass! I bet that guy also takes the bailout line around the new log features too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, AustinBike said: I would think that pedicabs would choose manual instead of electric because there are probably bigger tips when they see you huffing and puffing. If you are just cruising along like a scooter I bet the tip ratio drops considerably. Shoot... This is Austin... They could fake it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree Magnet Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I saw one in Bentonville last week. I have to say that after blasting down some amazing trails and ending up at the bottom of a valley, with only one gear to get me back up, the thought of having a motor help me get back to the top was appealing. Of course, if I had a motor, would I have enjoyed the downhills as much? Probably, yes. Would I have got as good a workout? No way IMO. Would I have ridden more trail? Probably. However, it’s not always about riding more trail. To me it’s about enjoying the trail I’m riding more.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 23 hours ago, RidingAgain said: Uber with an "e"... 1st world version of the rickshaw. yay late stage capitalism 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, AustinBike said: I would think that pedicabs would choose manual instead of electric because there are probably bigger tips when they see you huffing and puffing. If you are just cruising along like a scooter I bet the tip ratio drops considerably. It's also much more of an authentic experience if you bring your own whip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, notyal said: It's also much more of an authentic experience if you bring your own whip. There ya go... e-bikes riders are the new anti-slavery movement. Edited February 26, 2020 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) Yuka's videos are always fun. In this particular situation, it sounds like the e-mtb was not ideal: small rider, technical trails up and down. It sounds like the weight was a major liability for her. I wonder if a rider like her could adapt to using it full time, though. MOST riders would have a hard time wrangling a 50+ pound bike over that kind of terrain and maintaining control over the bike when gravity is also helping. As the weight comes down on these, it will become more manageable. I am kind of cynical but I see that creating a ton of bikes that will be useless in a few years because no one will want anything to do with bikes that heavy. Hopefully they can at least be repurposed as commuters or retrofitted with the lighter replacement batteries and motors. Edited February 27, 2020 by mack_turtle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 Interesting video. I can see where the sharp ups of Austin may not work well with an e-bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, mack_turtle said: Hopefully they can at least be repurposed as commuters or retrofitted with the lighter replacement batteries and motors. Even once useful planes are eventually discarded... https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/british-airways-concorde-plane-heathrow-16836227 Edited February 27, 2020 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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