WLemke Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Ordered a set of ESI extra chunky grips on Amazon. Here is what I got. Here is the product page I ordered from: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AOVWA8K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_Ic.6FbK9BTA5J?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 Partly my mistake as I overlooked who the seller was. I typically don’t have issues with marketplace sellers on Amazon but there is a first time for everything I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 How is it your mistake? I wouldn't hesitate to return them. Amazon is so full of crap these days. This year when I was online Christmas shopping I avoided Amazon so purchases wouldn't show up on our shared account. I ventured out into the wide world of random e-commerce websites, and was surprised to discover that pretty much everybody has fast shipping now, and the price is often significantly less than Amazon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLemke Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 How is it your mistake? I wouldn't hesitate to return them. Amazon is so full of crap these days. This year when I was online Christmas shopping I avoided Amazon so purchases wouldn't show up on our shared account. I ventured out into the wide world of random e-commerce websites, and was surprised to discover that pretty much everybody has fast shipping now, and the price is often significantly less than Amazon.I try to avoid buying from marketplace sellers where something seems off. “faf4aawf” was the seller name and their seller information is:Business Name:YunNanFanLianXinXiJiShuYouXianGongSiBusiness Address:YunNanShengKunMingShiGaoXinQuM1-4DiKuaiHeChengGuoJiYanFaZhongXin BDong6Ceng604HaoKunMingShiYunNanSheng650000CNIn this case I failed to check before ordering. I’ve already started the return process but it’s always a hassle. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willatter Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) I usually order from ESI direct. Last time I ordered they included a 30% code: ESI30RACERS. I love the grips but I wish they were a little easier to remove. I have burned through a few pairs replacing brakes, shifters, etc. Edited December 30, 2020 by willatter Added discount code Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 11 hours ago, willatter said: I usually order from ESI direct. Last time I ordered they included a 30% code: ESI30RACERS. I love the grips but I wish they were a little easier to remove. I have burned through a few pairs replacing brakes, shifters, etc. I love ESI's, but I've been using a set of Red Monkey Klampz for a while now and have been pretty happy with them. The feel of silicone with the ease (and weight) of a lock-on. Also, they are probably the girth of an ESI extra chunky with the cush of a racers edge. I kind of like it, but that combination could be a turn off to some looking for the extra cushion. https://www.redmonkeysports.com/collections/klampz-lock-ons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLemke Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 I usually order from ESI direct. Last time I ordered they included a 30% code: ESI30RACERS. I love the grips but I wish they were a little easier to remove. I have burned through a few pairs replacing brakes, shifters, etc.A mechanic’s pick to slide between the grip and bar, and a spray bottle of isopropyl makes getting silicon grips off super easy. I slide the pick in four different position around the bar while giving a small spritz of isopropyl. After a few firm twists the isopropyl will make its way down the entire grip and it will easily slide off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBaron Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, WLemke said: A mechanic’s pick to slide between the grip and bar, and a spray bottle of isopropyl makes getting silicon grips off super easy. I slide the pick in four different position around the bar while giving a small spritz of isopropyl. After a few firm twists the isopropyl will make its way down the entire grip and it will easily slide off. I've always used compressed air with great results. There's definitely a little technique involved but once you get that cushion of air going into the grip, it simply glides right off the bar (or back on). I'm an ESI guy and go through about 1.5 pair per year. Run the hand-me-downs on my kids bikes too after the tattered edges have been cut off. Later, CJB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I've been avoiding Amazon for bike stuff because the whole site is saturated with generic crap. you have to sift through all the Rock Bros. garbage and other knock-offs to find the real stuff, and then that stuff is the same price as anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLemke Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 I've always used compressed air with great results. There's definitely a little technique involved but once you get that cushion of air going into the grip, it simply glides right off the bar (or back on). I'm an ESI guy and go through about 1.5 pair per year. Run the hand-me-downs on my kids bikes too after the tattered edges have been cut off. Later, CJBThat’s a great idea. I’m assuming you’re using a rubber tipped air chuck like this?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) I always used hair spray in the shop. surprisingly, WD-40 is good for installing rubber grips. it dries up fast and leaves the bar/grip sticky and basically melted in place. this is how Tom at Empire BMX does it and that guy has installed a few grips in his day. however, the grips are not going to come off easily after this. Edited December 30, 2020 by mack_turtle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, mack_turtle said: I always used hair spray in the shop. surprisingly, WD-40 is good for installing rubber grips. it dries up fast and leaves the bar/grip sticky and basically melted in place. this is how Tom at Empire BMX does it and that guy has installed a few grips in his day. however, the grips are not going to come off easily after this. I used hair spray on motorcycle grips for many years. Works great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFisher Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I thought everyone just used lockon grips now, seemed like a no-brainer game changer to me. 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WLemke Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 I thought everyone just used lockon grips now, seemed like a no-brainer game changer to me. [emoji848]I’ve yet to find a more comfortable grip than extra chunkys for longer distances. Last week I did the Georgetown lake loop. My new bike came with some flavor of lizard skin lock-ons. They are super grippy but have next to no cushion. I started at Cedar Breaks and by the time I got to Camp Tejas my hands were not feeling great. When riding the same section on my old bike with extra chunkys, my hands would still feel fresh. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosmithy Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 gasoline for installing grips...just don't use pre-mix 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, mack_turtle said: I've been avoiding Amazon for bike stuff because the whole site is saturated with generic crap. you have to sift through all the Rock Bros. garbage and other knock-offs to find the real stuff, and then that stuff is the same price as anywhere else. I've had great success buying bike stuff on Ebay. Just scored these 5-10 Trail Cross LTs for $85 via bid as I was the only bidder. Interestingly they shipped out of Spicewood, TX. If you're out there - THANK YOU! Even with tax and shipping they were around $40 under retail. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willatter Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, WLemke said: A mechanic’s pick to slide between the grip and bar, and a spray bottle of isopropyl makes getting silicon grips off super easy. I slide the pick in four different position around the bar while giving a small spritz of isopropyl. After a few firm twists the isopropyl will make its way down the entire grip and it will easily slide off. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I have tried this and the compressed air trick and finally said screw it and broke out the razor. Maybe it's my handle bars, I'm not sure. I have had success removing them off my daughter's bike but it is a total pain on my blur. I usually replace them every few months anyway so its not that big of a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, GFisher said: I thought everyone just used lockon grips now, seemed like a no-brainer game changer to me. 🤔 Silicone grips like ESI just feel different. They add cushion and dampen vibrations. Plus, if you are a gram counter, you can beat the weight. I was having some hand problems when I tried them first. Can't say they fixed the hand issues completely, but I found I just loved the feel. I tried to go back to the lockons that came on a bike. That only lasted one ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Lock-on grips feel really weird to me. twice the price, half the confidence- inspiring feel. no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFisher Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, mack_turtle said: Lock-on grips feel really weird to me. twice the price, half the confidence- inspiring feel. no thanks. Funny. I feel super comfortable with them. I can think back on some rides back in the day where regular grips broke free (like at City Park) and it was death defying trying to finish a lap with the grip trying to slide off every 100' ,that or try to grip the bare slippery bar. I may give some silicones a try though.Comfort is good. Edited December 30, 2020 by GFisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamsloan Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 A mechanic’s pick to slide between the grip and bar, and a spray bottle of isopropyl makes getting silicon grips off super easy. I slide the pick in four different position around the bar while giving a small spritz of isopropyl. After a few firm twists the isopropyl will make its way down the entire grip and it will easily slide off. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI place 4 zip ties inside the grip and then slide the grip on to the bar using the zip ties as a sort of “slider”. Once the grip is in place I yank the zip ties out. No spray to dry up and they stay put. It’s my weird way but it works. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyt Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 21 hours ago, willatter said: I usually order from ESI direct. Last time I ordered they included a 30% code: ESI30RACERS. I love the grips but I wish they were a little easier to remove. I have burned through a few pairs replacing brakes, shifters, etc. I dont know how ESI grips might be different, but with regular grips I use an air compressure and a needle inflator. Put compressed air into the grip and they slide right off. Also makes putting them on easy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyt Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 8 hours ago, throet said: I've had great success buying bike stuff on Ebay. Just scored these 5-10 Trail Cross LTs for $85 via bid as I was the only bidder. Interestingly they shipped out of Spicewood, TX. If you're out there - THANK YOU! Even with tax and shipping they were around $40 under retail. another trick for ebay is to use a bidnapping service (I use bidnapper.com). They use bots to place a bid on your behalf in the last few seconds to prevent bidding wars. You can also chain auctions together so if you dont get one, it will bid on the next one. I have a high win rate with no bidding war. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Bug Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 18 hours ago, throet said: I've had great success buying bike stuff on Ebay. Just scored these 5-10 Trail Cross LTs for $85 via bid Just looked online -- $140! 5-10 Trail Cross LT Please post a product review after you put some miles on these. They look like a good option for summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 53 minutes ago, June Bug said: Just looked online -- $140! 5-10 Trail Cross LT Please post a product review after you put some miles on these. They look like a good option for summer. Will do! Just trying them on I can say they are incredibly light and comfortable, while still feeling stable. They have a really unique heal pad that sort of wedges you into a snug fit but with ample padding for comfort. Of course the Stealth sole speaks for itself. Can't wait to try them on the trail and will give a review once I do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, throet said: Will do! Just trying them on I can say they are incredibly light and comfortable, while still feeling stable. The 510s I have are super hot and have zero arch support. It's probably not the best time to test shoes for how hot they are right now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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