Seths Pool Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 platform pedals didnt prove to be so great for my really good racing buddy from DFW area last weekend at zombie goat. this is exactly what I fear about flats. I always mention the bike falling away from you or foot coming off the pedal. looks like he found a penny though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 That sucks! Hope he's feeling better soon. Yeah, blame the pedals! Definitely not any sort of rider error. If he was clipped in, he could just float effortlessly over everything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seths Pool Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 33 minutes ago, mack_turtle said: That sucks! Hope he's feeling better soon. Yeah, blame the pedals! Definitely not any sort of rider error. If he was clipped in, he could just float effortlessly over everything. Exactly, you get it. This is the same spot he crashed on. He is also an expert/pro level rider for whatever that’s worth 09983B8D-1A78-4022-A60C-0479364B6CC7.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Yeah, folks involved in extreme sports never just fuck up and get hurt. It could only have been the pedals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seths Pool Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 I’m halfway just being cheeky with this post. But at the same same time I guess we should all just ignore the big picture showing proof that this “issue” with flat pedals happened while everything else in the picture appeared to be just ok. But where is the logic in that? Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Sometimes being clipped in messes you up. Sometimes not being clipped in messes you up. There's a chance he would have gone down regardless of pedal choice. Perhaps it would have been worse if he were clipped in. Who knows? AllI know is that after 10 years of riding clipped in, riding flats makes me feel like I have wings in comparison. Fewer crashes and gobs more confidence. YMMV. Being a pedal evangelist is a good way to get on the ignore list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taco_junkie Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Imagine how much worse that crash would have been if he wasn't able to clip out in time. /s The photography on that is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Funny, I recently changed things up and moved back to SPDs on my squish. Yep, No issues. Clip out just as easy as if I was riding flats on her again. It just isn't an issue for me , Shit happens though on flats, Shit happens in clipless. The hardest thing for me is actually clipping in with my right foot, not out. But that is just muscle memory and adjustments that I need to figure out. If you like clipless, great, If flats work for you great, whatever floats your boat. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree Magnet Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Seths Pool said: Anyone notice how his helmet slid back after the impact? That looks like a lot of exposed skull to me if he was still rolling after this picture. I love the retention system on my Kali helmet but I feel that sometimes it might slide back like this in a big crash. Maybe this shouldn't be a discussion about flats vs. clips and instead be a discussion about full face vs. half shell for bombing an enduro course? Glad that the only injuries he got appear to be superficial. I think we all have a good scar from something like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamwa Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I blame filming it, personally. As for his face, shouldn't he be in a full face for racing this hard? Clearly wearing a xc helmet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Bamwa said: I blame filming it, personally. This is what I call the Paparazzi Effect. (it comes with a guarantee ... from Murphy) Edited January 22, 2019 by Ridenfool 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) I remember the days that if you were really into mtb riding you learned to use clipless. End of story. And if you fell, you fell. End of story. Today it's like "Flats, clipless, flats, clipless..." before you even get on the bike. And then of course there's also "9-speed, 10-speed, 11-speed, 12-speed...", and of course there's "non-boost, boost... 2.35, 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 2.8, 2.9, 3.0 tires... 26" (God forbid), 27.5, 27.5+", 29", Fattie... 740mm, 760mm, 780mm, 800mm bars... Carbon, aluminium... Single speed, 3/9, 3/10, 3/11, or 2/9, 2/10, 2/11... XC helmet, full face helmet... Pads or no pads... Shorts or tights... And on and on..." Oy vey. Edited January 22, 2019 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockshins Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Brutal, sending healing vibes his way, that foot off and helmet peeling off picture is making me squeamish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Hooray, we get to argue again. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamwa Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 16 hours ago, Seths Pool said: This could be an ad for 5tens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 20 hours ago, Tree Magnet said: Anyone notice how his helmet slid back after the impact? Too many riders don't have their helmet straps adjusted properly. I know I know... the strap bothers my chin, it itches my cheeks whatever. You wear a helmet for a reason if it's improperly fitted there's no point in wearing one. An improperly fitted helmet can actually be worse than not wearing one at all due to the fact that during a crash there is the possibility of it snagging on something and potentially causing a serious neck injury or like in the still shot where he's taking a dirt sample the helmet gets pushed back exposing his forehead. Your helmet should rest just above your eyebrows, your chin strap should be tight enough to only get one finger under it and the retention system should be snug around your head not allowing much movement. It's ironic that we'll spend the extra cash for a MIPS helmet and then proceed to wear it the wrong way. And yes he should absolutely be wearing a full face for this style of riding. It looks like the shoes and pedals held up fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natas1321 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Yeah that looks like it hurt, hope he is alright and heals up here soon. Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 14 hours ago, TheX said: Hooray, we get to argue again. No. We. DON'T!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, notyal said: No. We. DON'T!!! Al Gore invented the Internet for people to have a place to argue about inconsequential stuff. It is a right and a duty of all 'muricans to argue incessantly from the safety of their computers regardless of whether the computer is a PC, Mac, Tablet, Phone, SmartWatch, etc. Are you trying to deny people their natural rights? Edited January 23, 2019 by Ridenfool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, notyal said: No. We. DON'T!!! Like my kid said to his mom--Fun Govenor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamwa Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 If that dude was clipped in...would he still be attached to the bike? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seths Pool Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bamwa said: If that dude was clipped in...would he still be attached to the bike? I dont know if he would still be attached to the bike 4 days later, but he'd probably be at home talking about how awesome of a run down that stage he had. lmao but seriously though - my honest guess is that if his foot hadn't come off the pedal mid-air, he probably wouldn't have freaked out, or lost body position or his orientation and would landed that drop and finished the stage gracefully... as a matter of fact, let me ask him directly what happened and I will update this thread with his side of the story and whether he blames the pedals or not by the way everyone: I was just being cheeky with this post but holy smokes its easy to pour gas on fires around here! long live bikemojo! Edited January 24, 2019 by Seths Pool 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Seths Pool said: by the way everyone: I was just being cheeky with tis post but holy smokes its easy to pour gas on fires around here! long live bikemojo! It may have come off a tad more "cheeky" had the OP been other than Sir Dropsalot The Frame-Destroyer, aka The Carbon-Punisher, renown as The Champion-of-Clipless-Pedals-for-ALL. By the way everyone: I was just being cheeky with this post. Edited January 24, 2019 by Ridenfool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockshins Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Thought this was relevant, worth it for the comments section alone. https://www.pinkbike.com/news/video-clipless-vs-flat-pedals-the-pros-and-cons-of-both.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheX Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Tastes GREAT! Less Filling! rinse, repeat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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