Teamsloan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Fwiw, that video is from 2017 and they've since released an updated frame that apparently addresses this issues. I think it's interesting how he describes the feeling of the suspension when climbing. It sounds completely opposite from the other reviews I've seen. I certainly don't have a dog in this fight. I just seems like people are very quick to hate this suspension despite multiple reviews from respected sources singing it's praises. Talk about polarizing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, ATXZJ said: this is only from where the tester talks about the suspension. Sounds like your classic case of bringing a product to market to early in its development phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamsloan Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Interesting follow up from BikeRadar contrasting the Polygon vs the Marin (same suspension design)... "I also found that the Marin’s back end flexed so much, laterally, in certain situations that the shock would bind, causing the suspension to become suddenly harsh. The Xquarone appears to be stiffer, both when wiggling the rear wheel from side to side and when riding. I didn’t notice the shock binding while testing; in fact the suspension remained impressively active and supple throughout." - The Xquarone from BikeRadar "The most impressive thing about this bike is how it pedals. Forget how much travel it has, no matter the gradient, cadence or power output, the suspension is remarkably stable when seated. That means it forgives even choppy pedalling technique with almost hardtail-like efficiency." So, it seems that the Marin version of the NAILD design is sub-par, but the Polygon version is the one to ride if you want to see the full potential of the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soap94 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) On 3/3/2019 at 6:58 PM, Tree Magnet said: I don’t like ebikes because I see them as closer to a motorcycle than a bicycle. If we can use a 500 watt while on the trail, why can’t we use a 750 watt electric motor cycle? Why not a 75 cc yamaha? I get why hikers don’t like bicycles on trails because the speed differential adds danger. It’s how you feel riding city park and you hear a 400 cc KTM coming up behind you. My simple philosophy is that mixing motorized and non-motorized on the same surface is a recipe for trouble. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not really, it is a future and we have to admit it. The same thing is going to happen with motorcycles. Even in Yamaha's model line, more rumours are appearing that there will be a new model with hybrid motor. It doesn't make any sense for a true lovers though... All Yamaha models https://bike.net/Yamaha are unique and have a huge fanbase. I am also against this electric trend. Edited March 20, 2019 by soap94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seths Pool Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 10:50 AM, RidingAgain said: Sounds like your classic case of bringing a product to market to early in its development phase. so in other words that bike is a piece of shit. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider3141 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 A lot of comparisons have been made to motorcycles which is fair, but maybe a more applicable comparison is boats. Many small lakes are wind/ people power only or have HP limitations. I could see certain trail systems adopting rules based on their capability to handle E-bikes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 rode this bad girl home from work. Park a car. Super casual ride at 17 mph. Smiles for miles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Work downtown, live just north of circle c, normal commute avg less than 12mph and braaap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, Seths Pool said: so in other words that bike is a piece of shit. lol Well... No... Unless you want to call every first version of a product a piece of shit, which would include the bike you're hustling. Looking at the marketing video — and even reviews — it seems that the bike rides fine... There are just some areas that could be improved on. Which is normal for first versions of products. All products go through development, even after being brought to market. It's normal. Some though, come to market with less refinement than should have been included. Apple Cube Smokeless Cigarettes Cadillac Cimarron Pontiac Aztec WebTV Samsung Note 7 The Daily Astrocolor Early Bird Comet Edited March 20, 2019 by RidingAgain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcarneytx Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Still don't think I'd want one, maybe, but YT just announced a new e-MTB: https://ebike-mtb.com/en/yt-decoy-review/ "The Hunt" promotional video: Ride video: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, jcarneytx said: Still don't think I'd want one, maybe, but YT just announced a new e-MTB: https://ebike-mtb.com/en/yt-decoy-review/ "The Hunt" promotional video: If it would make me ride like that, I'd have one tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamsloan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) remember, these bikes are mainly to allow physically challenged people to mountain bike. 🙄 ...and they don't promote behavior that won't endanger trail access.... Edited March 28, 2019 by Teamsloan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamsloan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 The e-assist is really only to help you get to the top of the climbs... But don't forget to switch to "Boost" mode so that your geriatric body can make that double back flip with as short of a run in as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just wait until the Binford version is released. Moooore power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosmithy Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 They need to focus more of their advertising on old fat fucks like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 13 hours ago, Yosmithy said: They need to focus more of their advertising on old fat fucks like me. They haven't developed a big enough battery yet 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosmithy Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 34 minutes ago, throet said: They haven't developed a big enough battery yet 🤣 I'm calling Elon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 57 minutes ago, Yosmithy said: I'm calling Elon Oh, musk you? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Somebody sent me a link to this. https://www.vintageelectricbikes.com/products/scrambler-s 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree Magnet Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ridenfool said: https://www.vintageelectricbikes.com/products/scrambler-s I really don't get this one. I guess it's a motorcycle for those that don't want a motorcycle?? Saw this little note about only going 36 mph on private property? So that's how you get around the rules! Sneaky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Edward Abbey is turning in his grave. Edited April 25, 2019 by mack_turtle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I am heading out to France and Spain next week. Our apartment in San Sebastian is right next to a docked ebike rental: https://www.dbizi.com/?lang=en If we decide to do a day of riding I may convince the group to play on some of these. There is a really cool waterfront where we can cruise. The real problem will be that an ebike won't work off all of the pintxos calories so I may need a backup plan as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 12 hours ago, Ridenfool said: Somebody sent me a link to this. https://www.vintageelectricbikes.com/products/scrambler-s Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Yow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) Had my first close encounter with an e-bike last week riding in California. I had arranged a regular MTB rental through one of the local bike shops in San Luis Obispo and asked if any of the shop staff would be interested in riding / guiding for an afternoon. The guy meets me at the trailhead with my rental bike (Trek Fuel), along with a Rocky Mountain eBike from the shop that he was intending to ride. Now that I thought was actually an excellent application for a pedal assist ebike. After all, he was packing plenty of gear for trailside repairs, had extra snacks / fluid in case I didn't bring enough, and frankly was doing it for the fee I agreed to pay vs. strictly for fun. Also, in that role he knows that he has to keep up on the climbs and frankly climbing did not appear to be his forte. So in the end, it was a really great experience for both of us. He got to put a little extra cash in his pocket and I got to ride some sweet singletrack without having to do extensive research on the trail system and never having to pull my phone out to navigate the trails. He even offered to let me try the eBike, although I respectfully declined. Edited June 22, 2019 by throet 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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