Tree Magnet Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Rowan - it sounds like you have the potential to have a lot of people show up tomorrow. I don’t want to speak out of turn but if you haven’t already done it, break down everything you want to get done into chunks of work that can be handled by 4 to 5 person crews. This will let you maximize what gets done with all this muscle and minimize the ‘supervising’ and shovel propping that takes place.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertNomad Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Joe, He sent out an email to a handful of team leaders and assigned each team with a series of tasks. The project management is strong with that one (Ronan). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneBT Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I really wish I didn't have to work weekends when it come to these Saturday morning help sessions.....how long are you guys going out there for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyyhorn Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I’m so disappointed I’m going to miss both of these days. I think there’s a small chance I can make the 4th, but it’s an outside chance since I’m traveling. Thank you in advance for those that are helping get the trail in race shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMR Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 (edited) Never mind Edited April 26, 2019 by JMR I found it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertNomad Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I’ll see if I can bring some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tip Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 4 hours ago, HoneyBadger said: KVUE news will be doing a story about The Peddlers Pass volunteer day during their 5:00pm broadcast this evening. It was good PR. Any time "mountain bike trails" are mentioned as being good helps the cause. "They started as basically old game trails and then the bikers started connecting them." Love it. Isn't that how ALL trails get made? That's my story and I'm sticking to it at least. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosmithy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, The Tip said: It was good PR. Any time "mountain bike trails" are mentioned as being good helps the cause. "They started as basically old game trails and then the bikers started connecting them." Love it. Isn't that how ALL trails get made? That's my story and I'm sticking to it at least. I thought it was great that they discussed the trail work day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAZOS1845 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 https://www.kvue.com/article/news/cedar-park-group-asking-for-help-with-trail-improvement/269-c7576e10-3a0d-4a58-b498-fc389dca4db6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailrider77 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Walked out there on foot to see all the nice work. Noticed trail was very wet and water standing in low spots. All of a sudden a mtb rider on an old crappy no suspension bike came by me on the trail. I thought surely he would turn around after riding thru some soft mud and water holes. Nope, kept going and could care less about the damage he was doing. Ugh. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Sorry I can't be there, wanted to come out and give a hand. Unfortunately work got in the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 On 4/26/2019 at 11:20 AM, Shinerider said: Buy: https://www.amazon.com/Trail-Solutions-IMBAs-Building-Singletrack/dp/0975502301 That will teach you all you need to know. I ordered that book the moment I saw your post and just got it today. It's an awesome book! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) That book has become the "standard' for trail building. Even the federal government (National Park Service, US Forest Service, etc.) have picked up the info and published as their own. If you don't want to spend a few bucks and get the info in book form, you can most of it as downloads from sites like https://www.nps.gov/noco/learn/management/ncttrailconstructionmanual1.htm Google "trail building information" and start following links. One link to make sure you find is http://gt.nohvcc.org/ from our friends with motors. Personally, I would rather throw a few bucks to IMBA and get the book. Edited April 28, 2019 by cxagent 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinerider Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 That book has become the "standard' for trail building. Even the federal government (National Park Service, US Forest Service, etc.) have picked up the info and published as their own. If you don't want to spend a few bucks and get the info in book form, you can most of it as downloads from sites like https://www.nps.gov/noco/learn/management/ncttrailconstructionmanual1.htm Google "trail building information" and start following links. One link to make sure you find is http://gt.nohvcc.org/ from our friends with motors. Personally, I would rather throw a few bucks to IMBA and get the book. It is the "bible" for many agencies and organizations for building trailSent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMR Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Does anyone have any pics from the workday they can post? I didn’t think to take before and after pics of the berms we built. I didn’t have a chance to go look at what everyone else did. And I haven’t had a chance to get back out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailrider77 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Nice berms added on latest Peddlers addition - east side section. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAZOS1845 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, JMR said: Does anyone have any pics from the workday they can post? I didn’t think to take before and after pics of the berms we built. I didn’t have a chance to go look at what everyone else did. And I haven’t had a chance to get back out there. Didn’t take many photos but I did get a pic of the compact excavator doing its thing. Truly amazing to watch - I want one 🤪! Berms were built in 5 minutes or less. I had a lot of fun, hope to be a part of more days like this in the future. Thanks to all who helped organize and to all the other volunteers. Edited April 29, 2019 by BRAZOS1845 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBadger Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 A big thank you to everyone that showed up (at least 30 people) to help build on Saturday. So much was accomplished. We have one more big build day this Saturday, May 4th at 9:00 am. Meet by the splash pad at Brushy Creek Lake Park, 3300 Brushy Creek Road, Cedar Park. 78613. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seths Pool Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 On 4/26/2019 at 7:26 PM, trailrider77 said: Walked out there on foot to see all the nice work. Noticed trail was very wet and water standing in low spots. All of a sudden a mtb rider on an old crappy no suspension bike came by me on the trail. I thought surely he would turn around after riding thru some soft mud and water holes. Nope, kept going and could care less about the damage he was doing. Ugh. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk did you say something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailrider77 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 did you say something? YesSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, JMR said: Does anyone have any pics from the workday they can post? I didn’t think to take before and after pics of the berms we built. I didn’t have a chance to go look at what everyone else did. And I haven’t had a chance to get back out there. Here are some pictures from someone who remembered to take some (I never remember to take pictures.). Safety talk (only part of the volunteers shown). Before - During- Crew at the end - New berm from one direction - New berm from the other direction - Edited April 29, 2019 by cxagent 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree Magnet Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 That berm is amazing. Dirt has no higher calling.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentb Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I went for a brief ride this morning to try out the new berms, and they are awesome. We'll be carrying more speed through that trail now. I didn't ride the whole of PP because of the ongoing work, but I did ride just the western side from Parmer to the first tree gate/root drop. If that's a taste of what's to come for PP, I WANT SOME. The valleys of the eastern-PP rollers have some soggy muck yet. What can we do for drainage on those? Infill a bit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, brentb said: The valleys of the eastern-PP rollers have some soggy muck yet. What can we do for drainage on those? Infill a bit? Infill won't help. Drainage is the answer. There has to be somewhere for the water to go other than just sit there until it soaks in. Without writing a book, here are the solutions - Prevent water from getting into the rollers. Sometimes water can be diverted from reaching the low spots. Make sure the water is not directed to the low spots. Make the water soak in faster. Sand soils work best for this. Our black clay soil is really good at holding water. (They actually use a form of clay called Bentonite to prevent water from 'leaking' out of ponds.) Sometimes a layer of small rocks (golf ball and smaller) can be put in the bottom for a short term solution. But it is only a matter of time before the rocks are filled with dirt and it is back where it started. Get the water to drain faster. Drain the low spots out the side. Sometimes a drain pipe can be added to get water out of the low spots. But either way means there is a lower spot near by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBadger Posted April 29, 2019 Author Share Posted April 29, 2019 2 16 minutes ago, cxagent said: Infill won't help. Drainage is the answer. There has to be somewhere for the water to go other than just sit there until it soaks in. Without writing a book, here are the solutions - Prevent water from getting into the rollers. Sometimes water can be diverted from reaching the low spots. Make sure the water is not directed to the low spots. Make the water soak in faster. Sand soils work best for this. Our black clay soil is really good at holding water. (They actually use a form of clay called Bentonite to prevent water from 'leaking' out of ponds.) Sometimes a layer of small rocks (golf ball and smaller) can be put in the bottom for a short term solution. But it is only a matter of time before the rocks are filled with dirt and it is back where it started. Get the water to drain faster. Drain the low spots out the side. Sometimes a drain pipe can be added to get water out of the low spots. But either way means there is a lower spot near by. I already have a plan to address this. The solution is partly listed above in #3. With the dry summer months approaching it's starting to move down the list of priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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