Albert Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Went out to Brushy this evening, car said it was 102 when I started at 6pm and 90 when I finished at 8pm. Not sure I believe that, but it was rather hot. Not humid, though, which was nice! I would have stayed out longer, but my light mount appears to have fallen off my handlebars, maybe it was loose and came off at 80mph on 45. So I had to abort on doing any of Deception and Snail. There was almost nobody on the trails, which is understandable given the heat, of course. Did start to see more people as it got later (and cooler). At one point when I was in Peddlers it started getting quite windy very rapidly, like an outflow boundary or something.. That was quite weird! The post at the entry looks great! @HoneyBadger Did you actually plant the cactus there? Look forward to seeing more! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBadger Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 9 hours ago, Albert said: Went out to Brushy this evening, car said it was 102 when I started at 6pm and 90 when I finished at 8pm. Not sure I believe that, but it was rather hot. Not humid, though, which was nice! I would have stayed out longer, but my light mount appears to have fallen off my handlebars, maybe it was loose and came off at 80mph on 45. So I had to abort on doing any of Deception and Snail. There was almost nobody on the trails, which is understandable given the heat, of course. Did start to see more people as it got later (and cooler). At one point when I was in Peddlers it started getting quite windy very rapidly, like an outflow boundary or something.. That was quite weird! The post at the entry looks great! @HoneyBadger Did you actually plant the cactus there? Look forward to seeing more! I did plant the cactus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horncpa Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Per a Twitter post, the drop that is next to the creek a couple turns before the end of PP is closed for rework. I've definitely seen a couple wipeouts at that spot. I finally got myself to be able to make it through that section, but I'll admit that step down makes me feel uneasy EVERY time I do it. It just never looks good to my eyes, but I know it is rollable. Any idea what the plan is for that spot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMTBrider Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 minute ago, ahornsfan said: Per a Twitter post, the drop that is next to the creek a couple turns before the end of PP is closed for rework. I've definitely seen a couple wipeouts at that spot. I finally got myself to be able to make it through that section, but I'll admit that step down makes me feel uneasy EVERY time I do it. It just never looks good to my eyes, but I know it is rollable. Any idea what the plan is for that spot? Unfortunately on Twitter I have a limited character count to work with so had to cut it short.... Here’s the full post from Ronan... !TRAIL CLOSURE! The drop, next to the creek, a few turns before the end of the trail is temporarily closed. You'll have to use the bypass for a few days. I've been receiving an increasing number of reports of people going off the edge of the trail after the drop and either falling or nearly falling into the creek, with one rider "Deb" taken out on a stretcher. To improve safety, the trail is going to be realigned after the drop to improve the runout distance before the trail turns left back up the hill. This should stop people going off the trail. I'll also be adding a signpost clearly marking the feature and the bypass around it. ....and from this day forward this feature will be known as "Deb's Drop" (she said it's ok). 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horncpa Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Deb's Drop....Nice! She definitely earned it. Sounds like a good plan for the runout. I've gotten in the soft stuff on the right side a couple times and it definitely scared me good. Glad to hear it isn't going to just go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestbike85 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Not on Twitter, but keep us posted here on the efforts needed to fix this up. Willing to come out for a morning to help build a feature or whatever Ronan plans. Feel better Deb!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I am ok with drops but did it too fast once and almost ended in the creek 😂. My wife also went otb there once but she tried to follow my line after being warned so it was all on her. I do think it is a little dangerous compared to the rest of the loop. I am glad it can be kept amd made safer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4fun Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Morris said: I am ok with drops but did it too fast once and almost ended in the creek 😂. My wife also went otb there once but she tried to follow my line after being warned so it was all on her. I do think it is a little dangerous compared to the rest of the loop. I am glad it can be kept amd made safer Sad thing is I never even thought of this spot as being dangerous, until about a month ago when I started riding at night with 4 people completely new to mountain biking and one commented he almost went over the edge when he missed the turn for the bypass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circuitbreaker Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 For years, i always rode up the rock. oh, the good ole days! We should build a giant wall ride over the creek to catch people bombing off the 'drop'. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haught Diggity Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 You guys are normally really concerned with not making the trails easier, and leaving the risky spots as they are. Why the change of heart in this case with that small drop? I appreciate Peddlers Pass by the way! (18:00 PR) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horncpa Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, Haught Diggity said: You guys are normally really concerned with not making the trails easier, and leaving the risky spots as they are. Why the change of heart in this case with that small drop? I appreciate Peddlers Pass by the way! (18:00 PR) I am not the trail steward, but they try to market Peddlers Pass as a beginner level trail. There has been several accidents at this spot, with one being severe over the last couple of months. They aren't doing away with the drop, just improving the run out to make it a bit safer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fontarin Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Yeah, that drop isn't bad but I've started seeing the lines of people sliding off the trail if you hit too far to the right after you come off it. Makes sense to rework considering the rest of the trail, as that slide off line will only get worse. Edited August 27, 2019 by fontarin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebflo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 This sounds great. The current trail alignment was fine when it was an up instead of a down, but as a down it's kind of bad. It just begs to be dropped, but the sketch runout makes it not worth the risk, so I have just been rolling it which feels a bit lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 There is nice all size drops at brushy. I think that is a beginner loop and should stay friendly for beginners. Just not to be selfish because I personally like the drop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 There is nice all size drops at brushy. I think that is a beginner loop and should stay friendly for beginners. Just not to be selfish because I personally like the dropThe drop is staying and there is a beginner friendly bypass Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cafeend said: The drop is staying and there is a beginner friendly bypass for anybody without a dropper Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Fixed it for you 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 You don't need a dropper to roll that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, Albert said: You don't need a dropper to roll that. It was a joke - apparently an inside joke 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 It was a joke - apparently an inside joke [emoji6]Well played sir.. well played Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 17 hours ago, Haught Diggity said: You guys are normally really concerned with not making the trails easier, and leaving the risky spots as they are. Why the change of heart in this case with that small drop? I appreciate Peddlers Pass by the way! (18:00 PR) There is a balance here. On trails that are more "public" and that includes Brushy, you have to balance between not dumbing it down and making it safer, especially on sections that are not marked as dangerous. PP is really safe and would be an easy/green with the exception of that spot. Several have been hurt. So you do something about it. Deception, on the other hand, is not intended to be easy, so if a bunch of people get hurt somewhere there is not the same level of involvement to "fix" things for the novice rider. It's all a balance. The city is involved with the trail and condoning the building, so I would rather see some work done to make an easy trail more accessible; if you fight them they might just shut the whole thing down. It's all a balance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBadger Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 The drop is staying the same, it's what is happening after that's changing. The landing area was very small and you had turn the instant you touched the ground. As someone else said, you originally had to go up it and the line was fine. The feature is probably the most intimidating to beginners riding PP and had very little margin of error before you started sliding off the trail. I've moved the trail as close to the creek as possible to make it line up better with the drop. The landing area is going to be twice as big and longer. Since I'm making changes, I'm adding something for the more advanced riders... before you make the left turn up the hill I'm adding a big catch berm so you'll be able to rail that corner and carry a lot more speed up the hill. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBadger Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 TRAIL BUILDING TONIGHT!!! Come help finish "Deb's Drop" I'll be there at 5:30pm. See the picture for tonight's plan. We have tools, so just bring gloves and water. If your out riding Brushy this evening, stop by and swing a pickaxe for 10 minutes, the help will be much appreciated. Or if you're out there today, go swing a pickaxe for a few minutes and move some dirt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider3141 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Did you remove the tree next to the drop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBadger Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, RedRider3141 said: Did you remove the tree next to the drop? No, there was branch removed from that tree. It was part of the problem, lots of people were clipping their handlebars on it and wrecking, there was no bark left on the tree it was happening so much. Edited August 28, 2019 by HoneyBadger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBadger Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Cafeend was busy this morning, thanks!!! If we get a few people to show up this evening we should be able to get Deb's Drop reopened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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