Cafeend Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 So very recently, like the last 4 to 5 rides between 8 to 15 miles in distance, I have encountered some numbness. Only on my right foot and only my big toe and the toe next to the big one. Just like they fell asleep and got tingly. I have been riding clipless lately. Shimano SPDsNever had this happen before and dont know what to think. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ay Chihuahua Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Sounds like you need an orthotic insert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAZOS1845 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Like you, I also ride with SPD clipless pedals. A year ago I had similar symptoms where the distal aspect of my feet would start to go numb after a few miles of riding. Luckily, the foot numbness resolved after I bought a better fitting pair of new shoes. Perhaps you now have an excuse to get a shoe upgrade! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRIDER Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Better shoes with stiffer souls and/or inserts that will displace the pressure more evenly across the foot. The shoes can also wear out over time and start to flex more which leads to more pressure up front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosmithy Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Classic case of SSS Single Speed Sciatica 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 Classic case of SSS Single Speed SciaticaI got your SS right here. MSSGASent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 It might indicate a back problem... It's one of the signs that a spinal nerve, or offshoot of one, is being pressured. And I know this from my own experience and answers from spine specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJsnoozer Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 My left foot went numb in many races. Basically half of the ball of the foot and a few toes. Two things:There is a nerve in my foot that gets pressed in certain dress shoes, and when I walk around barefoot too much. I try to wear shoes more. Switching to a high end XC shoe has helped tremendously. When it goes numb now, it’s usually because I need to back out the adjustment by one click on one of the BOAs.Super stiff soles are amazing. I can’t believe I waited so long to get really good shoes. I run Lake MX237 wide shoes. The width in the forefoot may have really helped with stopping the numbness for me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentb Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 And to toss another idea out there, it may be cleat placement. About 10 years ago I started running, which changed my feet and caused numbness on some rides (using SPDs). It was a more general numbing across all my toes, not as specific as yours. IIRC I moved my cleats heel-ward just a couple mm, and that was enough to relieve whatever pressure was going on. Hope you get it figured out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 It could indicate that your big toe, due to today's social and political climate, has become disenfranchised with today society and is choosing to numb itself rather than exist in a world to which it cannot relate. Or maybe it's the shoe thing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree Magnet Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, notyal said: It could indicate that your big toe, due to today's social and political climate, has become disenfranchised with today society and is choosing to numb itself rather than exist in a world to which it cannot relate. Or maybe it's the shoe thing. Soon the big toe might decide to stop being associated with the right or left and begin to identify as centric. This could spell trouble for your balance. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Not to mention if the other toes were to bring an impeachment process into play to remove some particular toe they weren't happy with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share Posted August 8, 2019 Soon the big toe might decide to stop being associated with the right or left and begin to identify as centric. This could spell trouble for your balance. Dude.. why did you make me choke on my coffee? That's awesome.But I'm gonna go with the shoe theory for now. I mean I'll still like my big toe no matter what it chooses to be I guess. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) As Brent said, could be cleat placement. Not a fan of orthotics anymore. That's like putting a permanent cast on your foot. The human foot is a breathtakingly elegant peice of biological architecture that supports itself if you keep it strong. Part of that means not crippling them with overly supportive, stuff shoes and insoles. I like shoes that protect me for the task I am doing, but my feet rarely hurt anymore because I don't crutch them. Look up Katy Bowman. There's also a good chance that your issue has nothing to do with your feet. I am not even going to start playing Web MD for you there. There are dozens of things that could be amiss. You need to see a medical professional to sort that out. I highly recommend the medical wizards at Endeavor Physical Therapy. Edited August 8, 2019 by mack_turtle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Xero sneakers. I wear these to work every day (Lems makes some similar dress shoes) and I've walked thousands of miles in shoes like this over the past few years. I get blisters on my toes on very long vacation days, but my feet rarely hurt anymore. I ride in Five Ten Freeriders with flats and Maltese Falcons on SPD or Giro Carbide shoes for clipping in. These are fine for riding bikes because they are efficient and protect my feet from rocks, but they are the opposite of what I would wear as everyday shoes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cafeend said: But I'm gonna go with the shoe theory for now. I mean I'll still like my big toe no matter what it chooses to be I guess. Try riding your flats for a while and see if it goes away. If it does, you at least know it is not referred numbness from your back / buttocks. Then you can focus on determining if it is your shoes, pedals, or foot placement. Edited August 8, 2019 by throet 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 23 hours ago, FJsnoozer said: When it goes numb now, it’s usually because I need to back out the adjustment by one click on one of the BOAs. +1 Also, I tried some thicker insoles at one point and my numbness problem got bad. Going back to stock inserts fixed my problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBaron Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 On 8/8/2019 at 10:13 AM, FJsnoozer said: Super stiff soles are amazing. I can’t believe I waited so long to get really good shoes. Your getting a lot of differing feedback....which IMHO means that you're going to have to experiment and be intuitive with yourself to figure this out. I had a severe "hot spot" problem about 15 yrs ago when pedaling (mainly my road bike) for long periods of time (say for 4hrs+). It would get so bad that I'd have to stop, take my shoe off and massage my foot for a while. This would help for a bit but then it would start to come back about 30-40 min later. It ended up being that my right foot rotates rolls to the outside as I pedal. When I get tired it gets more pronounced. I was wearing a less than super-stiff MTB shoe for my road riding (same shoes as MTB'ing). I ended up buying some road specific carbon soled shoes and presto!....it went away. I shortly moved to some of the same caliber shoes on my MTB and have never really had the hot spot issue again. So for me it was stiff carbon soles FTW. Later, -CJB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 To clarify, I am not saying that stiffer cycling shoes would not help. Just offering some pushback from the notion that orthotic insoles solve all foot problems. Most of the time, they mask a deeper underlying problem that is now a ticking time bomb that is going to start hurting someplace else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentb Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 2 hours ago, CBaron said: Your getting a lot of differing feedback....which IMHO means that you're going to have to experiment and be intuitive with yourself to figure this out +1 "More research is required." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 @CBaron reminded me, I used to get a hotspot on the outside of my foot. The right wedges in the shoe or on the cleats (if road cleats) fixed this. The Specialized shoes already have some built in wedge but I needed more. Basically if you’re knock-kneed or bow legged (pronate or supinate in runner terms) you may benefit from wedges. That was a shocking difference for me. there is also Morton’s Neuroma which is my main problem in long races. The nerve gets pinched in the foot and some insoles have a metatarsal button to help prevent this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBaron Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Yes, I'm a defined supinator when running and wear Specialized S-works road shoes. -CJB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cxagent Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 As many have said - you need to start experimenting to see what works for you. My experience - Thick sock bad. Thin socks much better but get soaked in sweat. Pick your poison. The tighter I clamp my Sidi's the more trouble I have. When I am riding "hard", I need them tight. But I am moving so much on those rides I rarely have a problem. When on an "easy" ride I have to loosen the clamps or my feet kill me. Now days I try to pick how tight a need them and probably make adjustments during the ride. I have tried many different brands / types of shoes. As long as they have 'straps' (not laces), they seem about the same. It does not make much difference if those straps are velcro or rachet or ???. Just not lace up. YMMV. Orthodics help but are not an 'automatic solution'. Skot (at BSS) recommended some orthodics that were a great improvement then. Over time they weren't so much help. I replaced them with new and it got better but the same as when I first tried them. I think my body had changed so they didn't work as well the second time. I pulled the SureFoot custom orthodics out of my ski boots and tried them with mixed results. Some things got better. Somethings got worse. I think you should experiment on your own. At some point you may need to seek professional help. I would start with the quick/easy first and step up from there. My experience with doctors on these type of things is you have to tell them what is wrong so they can repeat it back to you. Some how the same information that was free becomes valuable when a doctor repeats it back to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidingAgain Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Go wool for socks... Wicks better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 If these are shoes and pedals that you have been using without any issues and now have issues it could be a long term overuse/fit issue that is now just showing itself. Like what Throet said try using some flats and see if the problem recedes if so then you know it's most likely shoes. Also shoes will start to break down over time and need to be replaced. I had a pair of road shoes that I had a similar issue with they were fine until one day I started getting hot spots on the ball of my foot, turns out I drove the cleat bolts up through the foot bed of the shoe and these were not cheap shoes $300 Time carbon shoes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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