Yosmithy Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Heading that way now, hope to beat the crazy azz weather! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMTBrider Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 It’s great out here now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Gringo Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, GreenMTBrider said: It’s great out here now! Church jumps are running really well . . . just sayin'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosmithy Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Just got back. Started to spit slightly, but I think you still have time if you hit it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Just got back. Started to spit slightly, but I think you still have time if you hit it NOWGovernment workersSent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notyal Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Cafeend said: Government workers Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk That's an overgeneralization. I've have many conversations with government workers who don't have a problem with spitting when they talk. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosmithy Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Looks like we got about .5" of rain last night. Anyone been out today tasting the moisture level of the trails? I promise I won't spit any today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I rode my road bike there an hour ago and saw lots of people riding the trails. Mud tracks on the bcrt were very light. I didn’t see anyone with caked tires. I should have checked peddlers to see if I needed to put the chain across but I was running late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Snail, Picnic X, and 1/4 Notch were fine late afternoon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 My wife just reported people coming out of Peddlers with caked tires. I saw the message 15 min late so I'm not sure if she's still there. I asked her to put the chain across the trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree Magnet Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Peddlers was too wet this morning. Just barely but too wet.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Chain is now across the entrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosmithy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 The parking lot was like a parking lot this afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 People were still riding Peddlers when I went through around 3:15pm today. I saw lots of muddy tracks on the concrete. I let a few of them know it was too muddy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSlow Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 On 1/12/2020 at 9:11 PM, AntonioGG said: People were still riding Peddlers when I went through around 3:15pm today. I saw lots of muddy tracks on the concrete. I let a few of them know it was too muddy. I was there around 3:45pm, as I rode to the entrance to Peddler's saw a bunch of people riding, got to the entrance and saw the chain up and very wet looking trails. I will give people the benefit of the doubt and they think "it's muddy but I'll just wash my bike and be safe so it's okay", they are not thinking "it's muddy and our soil just can't handle it and I'm going to ruin the trails". At least I hope it's just ignorance and not just being selfish... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natas1321 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Unfortunately I believe people are selfish. Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtSurfer Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Selfish humans don't change their ways without consequences, and we don't really have any consequences to dish out. What if we took a picture of everyone riding the trails that shouldn't be? Explain to them how they are damaging the trails, and we are taking their picture as proof they were told not to do it, and expect to never see them on a wet trail again. We could have a seperate thread called "caught riding dirty" and put their pictures in there. If nothing else, they would know that they were busted with proof and maybe not do it anymore? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horncpa Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 If I paid $60ish to have "Please do not ride WET TRAILS" for about 50 signs, would it be ok to put them out over the BCRT trail system and Suburban Ninja? I honestly think some people just have no idea it ruins the trail. They think it is fun to slosh around in the mud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SuperSlow said: I will give people the benefit of the doubt and they think "it's muddy but I'll just wash my bike and be safe so it's okay", they are not thinking "it's muddy and our soil just can't handle it and I'm going to ruin the trails". At least I hope it's just ignorance and not just being selfish... 30 minutes ago, natas1321 said: Unfortunately I believe people are selfish. I tend to go with Hanlon's Razor with this type of thing. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Or, in this case, ignorance. The problem is that even when individuals are relieved of their ignorance, they often hold onto it because humans are terrible at letting go of their previously held beliefs. Folks don't want to think they may have been wrong. They'll think, sure, it may leave a bit of a rut, but it doesn't really matter. Edited January 14, 2020 by Barry 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) To be honest I rode walnut muddy many times 5 years ago and I had no idea I was messing up the trail. I just met two other bikers that didn’t know either at brushy. “Isn’t mud part of mountain biking?” they understood when I explained. I think many just don’t know about the potential damage Edited January 14, 2020 by Morris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horncpa Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Morris said: To be honest I rode walnut muddy many times 5 years ago and I had no idea I was messing up the trail. I just met two other bikers that didn’t know either at brushy. “Isn’t mud part of mountain biking?” they understood when I explained. I think many just don’t know about the potential damage This is my contention on most of the 'mudders" I choose to believe most just honestly don't know better and this it is "part of mountain biking." I choose education! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tree Magnet Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I choose education!I think that we have no choice here because enforcement is not practical. There will always be someone that knows better but does it anyway. Those people are the douche bags that we should consider outliers. If we can educate in a non-condescending way, most people will listen. I don’t think we want to create an “us vs. them” situation where people get shamed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 hours ago, DirtSurfer said: Selfish humans don't change their ways without consequences, and we don't really have any consequences to dish out. What if we took a picture of everyone riding the trails that shouldn't be? Explain to them how they are damaging the trails, and we are taking their picture as proof they were told not to do it, and expect to never see them on a wet trail again. We could have a seperate thread called "caught riding dirty" and put their pictures in there. If nothing else, they would know that they were busted with proof and maybe not do it anymore? Honey Badger used Strava once to track down and call out somebody who rode Peddlers under muddy conditions. Maybe there needs to be more of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Public shaming goes a long way, I think it is a good idea. There are 2 FB groups, one on trail conditions and one on over MTB in Austin. The minute it rains people are all over "how fast will this dry", literally the same day. I blame energy drinks and prescription commercials that show people riding in the mud and smiling. We need to counter balance that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafeend Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Devils advocate here... Regardless of what reason a person feels it is OK to ride muddy trail , one chain on one trail that has more than one legit entrance is not gonna stop people. If the chain is up where it was installed but you can instead ride up the paved path and hang a left at the trail there, then folks will do that.Not to mention all the other tons of ways to enter any of the trails at BC Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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