ATXZJ Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 11/21/2022 at 6:13 PM, Ridenfool said: Yeah, that's more about the people than the bike. Just like some of the racerbois and Stravassholes who think a public trail is their private track. They'll be that way regardless of what they are riding. So much this ∆ My opinion has changed so much on ebikes over the last year. But, I've also been hitting trails with a lot of elevation that aren't located in TX. Either way I could do just as much, if not more harm to a fellow rider crashing into them at top speed on a DH run on a regular bike as an ebike. Particularly if I'm on a DH rig that can carry a lot of speed. I never seen an ebiker rear end a slower rider on a regular bike while on a climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted January 10, 2023 Author Share Posted January 10, 2023 3 hours ago, ATXZJ said: I never seen an ebiker rear end a slower rider on a regular bike while on a climb. I have, on the Church Climb at Walnut. Two of them practically took me off the trail. Probably an isolated incident. But, no class whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 5 hours ago, AustinBike said: I have, on the Church Climb at Walnut. Two of them practically took me off the trail. Probably an isolated incident. But, no class whatsoever. Next time: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Bug Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) On 1/10/2023 at 4:53 PM, AntonioGG said: Next time: "It's a bit of argy-bargy!" = Phil Liggett's favorite go-to phrase when Mark Cavendish is shoving someone into the barricades on the terminal sprint. Edited January 25, 2023 by June Bug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongo Loco Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 He's on the rivet!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Bug Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) On 11/20/2022 at 9:45 PM, Ridenfool said: I'm not as divisive as some when it comes to my favorite pastime. It seems better to pull together rather than to tear apart. YMMV I have to laugh at myself, as I'm starting to warm to e-bikes and really the change has been happening the last month of so. Going from, "Hey, they are for slackers!!!! to Hmmmm, there's going to be one in my future. It's all OK" I can see they are keeping older riders on the trail, pavement and gravel longer. The rate of adoption of e-bikes and the evolution of e-bikes is astounding; there are some road bikes around now that aren't readily identifiable as e-bikes. I'll also venture a guess the number of riders in the 70+ age bracket with a comfortable retirement income + discretionary cash may be part of what is driving the e-bike adoption curve. The downside: I'm a regular at a Tuesday morning ride on the Southern Walnut Creek Multi-Use Path. Meet between 8 and 10 am (depending on time of year) at Govalle Park on Bolm Rd. Ride at your own pace, regroup at the turn-off to the tennis courts, stop and chat at the very end, turn around, ride back and have coffee. Mostly older folks, retired. Recently some riders are showing up with e-bikes. A few people got them for medical reasons (capping heart rate to avoid triggering afib, bad knees). Now a few more perfectly fit strong riders have showed up who don't really "need" an e-bike, but got one anyway, because...So now the overall speed of the group has increased, and I can't keep up. The leisurely chats while riding along that kept me sane during Covid aren't happening. Edited January 26, 2023 by June Bug 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 But that is a perfect use case for an e-bike. You should get one if it allows you to do the thing you want to do. Not only are there no prohibitions against riding one there, the city will give you a rebate. We got $300 on my wife's bike and after Jan 1 that would have been $600. It is worth consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 21 hours ago, June Bug said: I can see they are keeping older riders on the trail, pavement and gravel longer. The rate of adoption of e-bikes and the evolution of e-bikes is astounding; there are some road bikes around now that aren't readily identifiable as e-bikes. Y'all remember this? https://www.theverge.com/2016/2/2/10892588/pro-cyclist-caught-motor-bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATXZJ Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 The new fezzari looks good and the price is right. Most importantly, they are offering a frame kit for people who build their own. About friggin time! Hopefully this will start forcing other manufacturers to do the same and drive prices down. https://www.pinkbike.com/news/fezzari-launches-timp-peak-long-travel-emtb.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just got to CA. Wife's e-bike made the trip. She's excited about riding along the ocean. The other bike in the back is hoping that the trails dry out in time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hypershell/one-horsepower-ai-exoskeleton-powers-your-everyday-adventure-0 We should have seen this coming. Edited March 16, 2023 by mack_turtle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I'll wait for this thanks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share Posted March 18, 2023 I will say that cranking up a 4-mile climb on a fire road that was about as steep as Jester and courtyard, my 36T cassette was no match for the guys on the e-bikes. I can understand the allure (and usefulness) in some areas, but not here in central TX. Especially with the weight to torque ratio being out of whack. I'm still in the traditional camp. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinBike Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share Posted March 18, 2023 Also, the apocalypse: This is why the cheap stuff is a real problem. guessing those $10K e-bikes from the big name guys, but the cheaper ones could be an issue. This is why we do not leave my wife's bike plugged in after charging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonioGG Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Was that guy all oiled up? It needed Benny Hill music. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I have a personal goal to live beyond August 2065, this includes mountain biking ... under my own power if at all possible ... but I not signing any contracts on that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 On 3/18/2023 at 7:19 AM, AustinBike said: I will say that cranking up a 4-mile climb on a fire road that was about as steep as Jester and courtyard, my 36T cassette was no match for the guys on the e-bikes. I can understand the allure (and usefulness) in some areas, but not here in central TX. Especially with the weight to torque ratio being out of whack. I'm still in the traditional camp. I'm a diehard and still in the traditional camp myself, even at 64. However, my perspective has changed some after this past weekend, and I'm more sensitive to use cases that I previously rejected. I hung out with a bunch of the SATN guys at Dana Peak for what now appears to be an annual gathering, and I was in no shape to keep pace on a couple of the group rides that ensued. For me personally, dropping out and either heading back to camp or traveling at my own pace is not a big deal. If others prefer to finish the ride instead with the aid of an eBike, that's really their choice, and there is absolutely no reason for anybody to regulate that, even in Central Texas. Really comes down to personal preference, and I'd like to know that the eBike option exists should I choose it someday, wherever I want to ride. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridenfool Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) I stumbled across a little perspective last weekend. Paul Uhl's son, Tristan, won the three lap expert class on Sunday at Warda with an average lap time of 34:32.4. Then, he borrowed an ebike to race in the ebike class for two laps, for last event of the day. His average lap time on the ebike was 32:01.2 (and he was flying on the ebike when I saw him come up the hill before Mule Trace). He was only ~90 seconds faster around the course on the ebike and he was the fastest rider there that day. Riding the ebike provided a gain of only 10 seconds per mile. This supports my experience. I've found my average speed when riding a familiar trail on the ebike is about the same as I used to see when I was younger, and riding without the assist. Only, now I can again go the distance when riding with folks and plan longer distance when riding solo than I had been. To me, planning rides to go for shorter distances was a disappointment for me. Riding an ebike ain't about being faster. Getting the most from each ride as I get older (also 64) is what ticks all the boxes for me. The more time I can spend flowing through the woods, the happier I am. YMMV Edited May 25, 2023 by Ridenfool 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tip Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Throet, the Dana Peak Saturday ride was SOOOOO much fun for me. But I would have never been able to keep up with that group of youngsters on my h-bike (human powered! lol) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 I thought we were calling them "acoustic" bikes now, but there's a frame builder who claimed that term as his brand. We'll never find an answer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack_turtle Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) (duplicate post) Edited May 25, 2023 by mack_turtle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tip Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 acoustic analog push traditional regular simply, "bike" Will we ever come up with a generally accepted term? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throet Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 48 minutes ago, The Tip said: Throet, the Dana Peak Saturday ride was SOOOOO much fun for me. But I would have never been able to keep up with that group of youngsters on my h-bike (human powered! lol) That was truly an amazing ride, one of the best I've done in CenTex, even with a DNF. I was at around the 12-13 mile mark and not too far behind the group when I came to a fork. The path left went further up the hillside, while the path right went down closer to the lake. I chose the "right" path and then realized you guys were up the hillside when I heard chatter from the group. Luckily I ran into @Barry who apparently decided to do some solo riding. He graciously offered to guide me back near the starting point, where I could head back to camp and he could do a little more riding. That added another 3-4 miles to my ride which ended at around 17mi. Both of my legs were starting to cramp - so I definitely made the right choice to bail. Grateful too that Barry was willing to slow the return pace down for my guided ride back. That part of the ride was equally enjoyable and we had some pleasant conversation. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schrute Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 On 5/25/2023 at 8:17 AM, The Tip said: acoustic analog push traditional regular simply, "bike" Will we ever come up with a generally accepted term? I prefer the term "Amish" bike, as Bobo calls them, lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tip Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I think I'm going to start using, 'bike bike." "The ebike was broken so I took my bike bike." 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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