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2 hours ago, Ridenfool said:

As for inconsiderate trail users...

My feeling is that there are bonewipes in both the mountain bike and e-bike world.

My experience is that in the e-bike world there are greater predispositions towards bonewipeishness.

Yes, you can do the "both sides" on this one but, generally speaking, you're gonna see more problems with one group over the other.

Your mileage may vary.

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7 hours ago, AustinBike said:

My feeling is that there are bonewipes in both the mountain bike and e-bike world.

 

My feeling is that they are both "the mountain bike world." Bonewipes and all. (To be clear, I know there are non-mtb e-bikes. They are of no concern to me.)

I'm not as divisive as some when it comes to my favorite pastime. It seems better to pull together rather than to tear apart. YMMV

Edit: There are plenty of others trying to undermine mountain biking without us making it easier for them.

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19 hours ago, Ridenfool said:

I'm not as divisive as some when it comes to my favorite pastime. It seems better to pull together rather than to tear apart. YMMV

I am not either, I like to ride.

But I am divisive when people threaten my favorite pastime. Some e-MTB riders (those who ride where they are not allowed or use their speed to blow past others with total disregard) are on par with people who do unsanctioned trail modifications or ride trails when they are too muddy.

All of those groups get the same level of angst from me.  There are plenty of eMTB riders at Walnut these days, the majority are innocuous. But if you are doing church climb and someone rips past you telling you to get out of the way, yeah, we're gonna have a chat when I get to the top. It's the general lack of courtesy from some riders (e or not) that I have little tolerance for these days. They're shared trails.

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1 hour ago, AustinBike said:

Yeah, but I live a weird life. Since I don't work any more and hate retail, the only time I regularly see people is when I am on my bike. Or getting a beer afterwards.

I don't think you're part of the problem, but I believe this is at the root of some of our current issues.  People interact less and less with real people and forget there are real humans coexisting with us.  It's solipsism run amok.  The R&I is the cure for our little community.  More people need to have/form their own real people communities where people of all beliefs, races, orientation (political, sexual, etc.) can interact and see the humanity and treat each other with respect in spite of our differences.  If anyone here watches Mythic Quest, you get to see an interpretation of what happens in a metaverse.  I think the book of faces became a de facto warped metaverse and that spilled over into the real world. 

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A couple of weeks ago, I had the privilege to ride for over 2 hours with a group of wounded warriors on Veterans Day.  Some of them were on ebikes along with their 76 year old former commander in chief.  It was wonderful to share the trail with them.
 

At 62, I’m not there yet, but no doubt that day will come.  If technology allows me to pursue an athletic passion that has brought so much joy for over 30 years, then sign me up for one more decade.
 

We don’t stop playing because we grow old. We grow old because we stop playing. I intend to keep playing and will promise to keep peddling after I blow past you on that technical climb.  

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